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04:26 < lts> schalken: seems so
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15:21 < bleb> I noticed openbsd ships a pretty recent version of perl
15:21 < bleb> are there guidelines as to what features of perl are allowed in openbsd tools?
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15:28 < thrig> probably not formats
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15:32 < eea> i use lots of perl stuff, openbsd/freebsd/linux... pure perl has 0 issues, few cpan bundles can get prickly in openbsd but nothing local::lib can't solve.
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15:33 < thrig> probably not smartmatch
15:34 < sibiria> i do miss me my basic ~~ usage
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15:35 < eea> ah, so there are perlisms that do break in openbsd.. heh, tmtowtdi <3 perl
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15:38 < sibiria> more a thing that eventually breaks in perl
15:38 < sibiria> rather than openbsd
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15:39 < sibiria> (smartmatch being deprecated and soon to be removed)
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15:43 < oldlaptop> usually the perldocs say when using something is a bad idea
15:43 < oldlaptop> (I don't much like perl as a whole, but the documentation is *art*)
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15:52 < eea> perlcritic -c not common for perl hackers in openbsd?! to shreds you say!
15:52 < eea> ha
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15:52 < thrig> I don't use perlcritic
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16:27 < bleb> sibiria: but not actually removed right
16:28 < bleb> you could still put use v5.10; right?
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16:30 < oldlaptop> ISTR the things they're planning to remove are getting removed because they're impossible to use correctly or turned out to be impossible to implement correctly or otherwise be a really really bad idea to use
16:30 < thrig> use 5.42.0 only disables smartmatch, the code hasn't properly been evicted
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16:32 < bleb> oldlaptop: obviously because why else would they remove it 
16:32 < bleb> I was just clarifying what is meant by "remove"
16:33 < bleb> thrig: so are there plans to properly evict the code or
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20:05 < loopb> you should see my coworkers faces when they squint at my perl shit. fucking python wankers
20:05 < eea> ^
20:05 < phy1729> loopb: tone down your language please
20:06 < loopb> ack
20:09 < morpho> thats such a brit swear word
20:09 < morpho> perl is coming back
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20:38 < quinq> Perl & Embarrassments
20:39 < sibiria> perl() or die;
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23:54 < elarks> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=177612582009273&w=2 Reading this had me wondering, has there ever been a stress test of sorts with fsck and ffsv2?
23:55 < mischief> better ask renaud ;-)
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