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08:33 < rIMpossible> qbit: OCaml version 5.4.1 / utop 2.17.0 / opam 2.4.1 / LSP-Server 1.26.0 ;) Do you have the same? # opam list
08:34 < rIMpossible> qbit: forgot dune 3.22.2
08:34 < rIMpossible> I hope OpenBSD is updating the packages, which adds through pkg_add to the latest available ....
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09:09 < vortexx> mh not one but 3 patches in patch tuesday...
09:10 < vortexx> also https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20260415050032 "Selectively block cores from the scheduler with sysctl hw.blockcpu" hw.smt is going away in favour of this
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10:15 < t3ch> does openbsd have anything in commun with opencode?
10:18 < pardis> yeah, openness
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10:20 < t3ch> :) you are right *
10:28 < vortexx> and also they're code
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10:42 < IcePic> as I understood it, "open" in openbsd was due to the fact that they started posting -current code over anoncvs, so you did not need to be a committer to be able to get development version of the OS
10:44 < pardis> whereas in opencode it means you don't need to do development to be a committer
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10:54 < oldlaptop> I was about to ask if that's what they're calling the repo.or.cz mob branch now...
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10:56 < oldlaptop> (and mildly amazed to see the site's actually up and pretty responsive - https://repo.or.cz/mob.html)
10:57 < oldlaptop> (it's even gitweb, not cgit!)
10:59 < oldlaptop> maybe the opencode things just don't want to steal software from mob branches
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12:01 < vortexx> opencode appears to be some LLM thing
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14:03 < miah> opencode appears to be some sort of vibevomit
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14:51 < thrig> given that the bitcoin bros came for crypto, it makes sense you-know-who would ruin other terms as well
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15:24 < lts> Like OpenAI and "open"?
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17:33 < amrfti> I can't get pf to accept my grammar using reply-to. pass in quick on igc0 proto udp to any port 61175 `reply-to ($wan_if 10.0.0.1)`
17:33 < amrfti> It throws a syntax error with that last part of the rule
17:36 < lts> Why do you have quotes there?
17:36 < amrfti> Just to show the problematic part. The rule works without that
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17:43 < mischief> amrfti: i think for multiple addresses you want { host, host }
17:43 < mischief> otherwise just reply-to host
17:44 < amrfti> Oh yeah that worked immediately, weird. I pulled that syntax from someone else online. Can't trust anyone these days :p
17:44 < amrfti> Thanks
17:47 < Bradipo> s/anyone/"AI"/
17:47 < mischief> or maybe from legacy syntax like freebsd still uses?
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17:48 < mischief> the manpage could probably be clearer on it, but i just read pfctl's parser.y yacc source :P
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18:20 < seninha> Hi, is hw.blockcpu=L the equivalent setting for hw.smt=1?
18:21 < uwharrie> no
18:25 < vortexx> from man -s 2 sysctl : A series of characters (S (SMT), P (Performance core), E (Efficiency core), and L (Lethargic, Low Power Efficiency core) representing cpu types to avoid schedule tasks onto.
18:25 < vortexx> so hw.blockcpu=S
18:25 < vortexx> it's SL by default
18:25 < uwharrie> hw.smt=1 would be equivalent to hw.blockcpu=''
18:26 < vortexx> ah yes
18:26 < vortexx> (don't use that setting much as I mostly use OpenBSD in VMs)
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18:37 < seninha> vortexx, it's the inverse logic; if i want the “S” for SMT, i should ommit it from hw.blockcpu (cuz it's “block”).
18:37 < seninha> i think...
18:38 < seninha> manual is not clear at that; i also got confused
18:39 < uwharrie> if you want the equivalent of the old hw.smt=1 behavior, then blanking out hw.blockcpu would be the equivalent
18:39 < seninha> I just set it to hw.blockcpu=L, to block lethargic cpu mode
18:39 < seninha> uwharrie, thanks
18:43 < morpho> can you statically compile on obsd?
18:43 < mischief> try it and see
18:43 < uwharrie> yes
18:44 < Bradipo> If I'm not mistaken /bin/ksh is compiled statically.
18:45 < phy1729> All of /bin and /sbin is iirc
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18:46 < cgnarne> yup
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18:46 < phy1729> Only most of /sbin it seems
18:46 < thrig> meanwhile on redhat linux someone upgraded glibc (because some program wanted that) and then everything else broke
18:47 < cgnarne> phy1729: what in /sbin is dynlinked?
18:47 < morpho> im just trying to figure out how to do it with ports
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18:48 < vortexx> thrig: in my very early days of linux I did that for the lulz, not realising I needed to recompile everything else. Can't remember if that was on SuSE or RedHat (pre RHEL)
18:49 < phy1729> cgnarne: dhcp6leased dhcpleased iked isakmpd mountd nfsd pflogd resolvd slaacd unwind
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18:50 < vortexx> all the network daemons, basically
18:51 < uwharrie> have a look at mail/postfix. It uses a static compile of OpenSSL
18:51 < cgnarne> huh. you learn something new every day
18:51 < vortexx> speaking of MTAs, exim is about to be deepsixed from ports
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19:01 < f451> ^^^ yeah saw that
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19:02 < f451> not looked why yet
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19:02 < cgnarne> it went to a farm upstate
19:03 < f451> lol
19:03 < uwharrie> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=177625153728067&w=2
19:03 < f451> been using exim on one system or another since ~2000
19:03 < UID0_to_JSON> security fatigue around it
19:03 < UID0_to_JSON> it keeps generating painful security work
19:04 < cgnarne> too many security problems and it is installed suid root
19:04 < f451> yeah
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19:06 < UID0_to_JSON> if a mailer keeps handing you urgent root owned archaeology every few months, at some point it stops being a port and starts being a hostage situation
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19:08 < UID0_to_JSON> for the people who still genuinely need exim and not justt an MTA , whats the least bad migration target?
19:08 < thrig> depends on what you were doing with exim
19:09 < UID0_to_JSON> custom routerls
19:09 < UID0_to_JSON> acl hairballs
19:09 < UID0_to_JSON> weird policy glue
19:09 < UID0_to_JSON> postfix with some humility ?
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19:17 < lts> I think it's been at least 10 years since the first time I saw "that's it, exim has been horrible for so long, it goes now" being discussed. Hasn't happened so far regardless of OS
19:17 < uwharrie> had to wait on sendmail to stop breathing
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19:22 < cgnarne> sendmail is not dead, it's resting
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19:33 < sibiria> exim and postfix are both two sides of the same awful coin imo. sendmail is a nightmare of its own
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