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08:03 < sandbag> i am installing openbsd with the terminal installer and it's unable to autoconf ipv4
08:06 < renaud> do you have a dhcp server?
08:08 < sandbag> no
08:08 < sandbag> i manually configure now its ok
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08:44 < sandbag> why is idle mem usage high?
08:44 < sandbag> its 833M
08:44 < sandbag> on htop
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08:48 < sandbag> i dont get that high even on ubuntu ;/
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08:58 < renaud> ah, indeed, htop doesn't print the same values at all as normal top
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09:03 < renaud> it seems htop takes reclaimable memory and adds it to really used memory
09:04 < dlg> lies and statistics, right?
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09:11 < renaud> different concept of calculations, which are seen on OpenBSD but maybe not on linux
09:12 < renaud> htop doesn't really lie, but reports memory that could be freed as used
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09:17 < renaud> https://github.com/htop-dev/htop/blob/1c6f4e8bb968490c2f8aa99e95b2469685e70186/openbsd/OpenBSDMachine.c#L153-L159
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09:30 < sonya> sandbag: try this →  https://termbin.com/2gxb  → memory usage by ps..
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09:50 < sandbag> sonya: ah that reports 47.8 and 50 for virtual and real
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09:51 < sandbag> renaud: so most of what i am seeing is reclaim mem?
09:51 < sandbag> is it not used at all?
09:52 < renaud> bottom line: use top, not htop
09:52 < sandbag> Memory: Real: 22M/1328M act/tot Free: 2597M Cache: 531M Swap: 0K/2997M
09:52 < sandbag> top shows this
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10:08 < renaud> way below htop. If I remember well, you are not the first one mentioning this htop behaviour
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12:02 < sonya> man 1 top ... $ man 1 ps ).. short summary - it's better to use 'top' from base system.. 
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