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03:45 < MadBee> Hey, I've been trying to create a shim of sorts so I can have my caps key work as both a ctrl key when held and an esc key when pressed. I've built similar things for linux but can't seem to wrap my head around how to do it on OpenBSD. I've been able to read events from /dev/wskbd0 but can't seem to inject events anywhere in the pipeline. I'd like
03:45 < MadBee> to do it below X as I often work from the cli. I've been playing around with ioctl and read all the man pages I could find that seemed relevant, can anyone point me in the right direction?
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03:49 < dg> thrig: I went and checked all the pledge metadata, so the makefile comment should be accurate... for now
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14:22 < leah> my new hobby: geoguesser
14:22 < leah> but not on my librewolf port. can't be bothered to enable webgl
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16:10 < kiliro> hello
16:11 < kiliro> which shell does openbsd use?
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16:12 < ninjin> kiliro: Korn shell
16:13 < kiliro> oh ksh!
16:13 < kiliro> nice
16:13 < kiliro> thanks ninjin 
16:13 < ninjin> Anyone else seeing "dangling" openrsync processes? Unsure when I launched them, but seeing maybe four or so on a desktop not rebooted for a while.
16:13 < ninjin> kiliro: <3
16:14 < ninjin> 145 days uptime, so hard to pinpoint when those were launched.
16:18 < thrig> more pd ksh than oh ksh
16:19 < kiliro> what is pd ksh ?
16:20 < kiliro> what is oh ksh ?
16:20 < sibiria> what is love? baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more
16:20 < fro> oh ok
16:22 < byteskeptical> sibiria: lol
16:22 < byteskeptical> leah: noice tis a fun game though I'm no good at it
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16:55 < kiliro> I wonder why mature has to be between babies.
16:55 < kiliro> mature love
16:55 < kiliro> I wonder why mature love has to be between babies.
16:56 < kiliro> perhaps it is the way one becomes the parent of the other
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17:26 < Posterdati> hi
17:26 < Posterdati> when?
17:27 < cgnarne> now
17:28 < kiliro> why?
17:28 < kiliro> and how hi?
17:32 < Posterdati> don't know, don't care
17:36 < kiliro> What can I propose a bank to do in order to be able to make javascript-less banking?
17:38 < morpho> ssr with go
17:38 < morpho> dunno
17:38 < morpho> php
17:39 < mischief> have you tried going to the bank in person
17:39 < kiliro> that could be a solution, mischief 
17:39 < kiliro> but why does it have to be harder
17:39 < kiliro> ?
17:40 < kiliro> can't an easy solution not be bloated with js?
17:40 < mischief> it's not always an option, maybe your bank has no branch around you. admittedly i haven't tried to do much banking on openbsd, but no javascript is definitely a stretch in this decate
17:40 < mischief> decade
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17:45 < IcePic> yeah, almost all of them would use js to make early local validation of input and so on, even if they also do it on the server side, I'm guessing its "cheap" to let the users computer make sure you don't enter 31-April as a date for payment and so forth
17:53 < kiliro> that is so lame...it is not very heavy-lifting
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18:02 < IcePic> kiliro: sure, but why take a lot of roundtrips when you can print a red * on all required fields that the client missed and so forth
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18:09 < kiliro> because the customer's machine is not a safe place to run such delicate matters
18:10 < kiliro> anyway, my reasons are others
18:10 < kiliro> I do not want a stranger to run software which has not been approved by someone I trust.
18:11 < kiliro> en my machine.
18:11 < kiliro> s/en/on/
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18:12 < riad> hi!
18:13 < riad> im currently learning about the very beautiful spanning-tree protocol and while reading the openbsd documentation for it, i noiced MSTP is not available on openbsd
18:13 < riad> why is that?
18:14 < riad> is there no way to loadbalance via multiple Vlans in openbsd's spanning tree?
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18:16 < riad> .1s was released in 2002, and after that came TRILL & SPB, which never were adapted and today everyone uses VXLAN and EVPN
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18:17 < riad> im just confused why openbsd stopped at RSTP, because i know theres probably a good reason for it
18:17 < eea> surely there is traffic on misc@ about this?
18:20 < vortexx> plenty of spanning tree traffic there
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18:35 < riad> eea: vortexx: there is plent spanning tree traffic but not much regarding mstp
18:35 < vortexx> riad: usually if the devs haven't touched it is it didn't generate interest. OpenBSD isn't intended as proper switch OS replacement
18:35 < riad> s/plent/plenty/
18:36 < riad> vortexx: yeah i guess that checks out
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18:37 < riad> lets make it one and dethrone cisco
18:37 < IcePic> layer-2 protocols tend to have weird sideeffects between diff. vendors
18:37 < IcePic> like LACP and so on
18:37 < eea> riad: like a true openbsd user... you can blaze a trail :)
18:38 < IcePic> I think it would be tedious trying to be compatible with all switches that are semi-smart
18:38 < eea> cloud based lan switches, nuff said.
18:38 < IcePic> clown based LAN
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18:38 < eea> ^
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18:39 < eea> this may be more appropro in #openbsd-social however
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18:39 < riad> IcePic: i like to assume those "sideeffects" are intentional to make customers chained on one vendor
18:40 < riad> eea: made me smile ^^
18:40 < eea> riad: if you want real vendor driven insanity, look at the rfc for imap
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22:08 < seninha> Hi, has anyone tried this port of TDE (trinity desktop environment, aka KDE 3)? https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde-packaging/src/branch/master/openbsd
22:09 < seninha> From commit history, it seems to have not been touch or tested recently, except for changes to keep in sync with the freebsd port.
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