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00:27 < joe9> any US folks using asterisk or freeswitch ?
00:31 < sibiria> asterisk user, but not a US one
00:31 < joe9> did you buy your did?
00:31 < sibiria> we buy DIDs at work, yes
00:32 < joe9> from whom? I am looking to buy a did from numberbarn.com. They want $10.
00:32 < joe9> and, they say that I can port the number out.
00:32 < joe9> Who do you use for the SIP trunk/carrier?
00:33 < joe9> I am with voxbeam and they got hit with a $4.5 million fine.
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00:33 < joe9> Now, they are taking it on the customers.
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00:33 < sibiria> mostly infobip and sinch, and we get our DIDs from the same providers we terminate calls with
00:34 < joe9> oh, so you pay monthly price for the did's?
00:34 < sibiria> yes that's the norm
00:34 < joe9> just curious how it works when I buy a number from numberbarn.com. I am not sure if I have to still pay a monthly cost to the carrier later.
00:35 < joe9> after I buy the number and port it to my carrier.
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00:35 < sibiria> if you port it elsewhere you will be paying to whom you transferred the number to
00:36 < sibiria> if you want to use the number for terminating calls to the PSTN as well i recommend you just get a number from the cheapest/most suitable ITSP you can find
00:37 < joe9> I am searching for the cheapest / most suitable ITSP
00:37 < joe9> so, infobip / sinch do stir shaken signing for you, I assume?
00:38 < sibiria> they would if we were to terminate calls to the US, but we don't
00:38 < sibiria> europe is our market
00:40 < joe9> there is no pricing on the infobip website.
00:41 < sibiria> they officially only serve businesses, but individuals can sign up and allocate numbers etc.
00:42 < sibiria> maybe have a look at didlogic and flowroute. they are more common on the US market
00:42 < joe9> ok, thanks.
00:43 < joe9> I wish there was dahdi on openbsd.
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00:44 < joe9> sinch seems better than infobip. more transparent, etc.
00:44 < sibiria> voip.ms is popular among US businesses too iirc. not sure if they serve individuals
00:46 < joe9> yes, voip.ms comes up quite often in my searches. 
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00:58 < joe9> flowroute seems to be the cheapest option of them all. Thanks.
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11:28 < Posterdati> hi
11:29 < Posterdati> any releasing date for 7.9?
11:30 < morpho> all out of puffer fish
11:30 < morpho> come back tomorrow
11:30 < Posterdati> pusher fish
11:43 < quinq> Is that the fourth movie?
11:45 < avemestr> Posterdati: https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/checkout/src/etc/root/root.mail,v?rev=1.180 < best guess for the un-initiated at the moment :-)
11:47 < oldlaptop> (as you'll see in the full revision history that routinely gets moved around)
11:47 < avemestr> Yep.
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15:55 < Foxy_> Posterdati: R7.9 release scheduled on May 19
15:57 < vortexx> speaking of, when I try to checkout OPENBSD_7_9_BASE (which I realize is not yet available but I do like to check) I'm getting this: cvs [server aborted]: cannot write /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied
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15:58 < vortexx> hadn't had this error with previous releases before they got released
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21:51 < minall> Does this book make sense for someone that wants to learn kernel development, but in OpenBSD? https://github.com/ebrandi/FDD-book
21:55 < oldlaptop> Also possibly relevant, though I think it's been detached from index.html in the 'link graph' for a while. If there's any OpenBSD-specific "kernel internals" manual, I'm not aware of it. https://www.openbsd.org/books.html
21:57 < oldlaptop> Can't imagine studying kernel hacking on a "relative" is a *bad* idea.
21:58 < oldlaptop> (That is probably a bad way to put it...)
21:58 < quinq> Depends if by relative you mean cousin
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22:18 < minall> Thanks!, All these books look interesting
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23:45 < mischief> damn.. 19th is a ways away.
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23:57 < oldlaptop> The ports tree was only locked the other day, IIRC.
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