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05:02 < zbcm> "Enable fall-back audio devices by default in sndiod(8)." Accidentally pulled a cable out of my DAC and broadcast to the whole world.
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07:20 < sandbag> is there any advantage of using relayd+httpd instead of nginx?
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07:21 < quinq> They're in base
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07:31 < sandbag> that's not good enough reason
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07:37 < doclic> for making a static website relayd+httpd is quite nice imo
07:39 < sandbag> will stick with nginx since i have used it for too long
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07:48 < quinq> sandbag, glad to know your opinion about it
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07:50 < mischief> if it works for you, use it. it's just software
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07:57 < sonya> hello.. if anyone is running alpine with openbsd host (vmd), could you please advice which default net interface is ok for alpine's guest? vio0 or eth0 ? thanks a lot (sorry, too lazy to check myself)
08:14 < ivdsangen> eth0 works here fwiw
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08:17 < quinq> same
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10:40 < tylerius> sandbag: haproxy + http is usually recommended too. haproxy is more actively developed than relayd and has more features, although it's not in base
10:40 < tylerius> s/http/httpd
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11:18 < sonya> ivdsangen: quinq thanks a lot!
11:33 < quinq> You're welcome, good luck!
11:34 < quinq> Note, in case you don't already know, you'll need the vmm_clock package too
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11:43 < ivdsangen> i dont have vmm_clock on alpine, im not having issues i think
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12:30 < sonya> quinq: it stuck at ntp server startup, i quit with Ctl-C , check - all worked (net and some services). i'm just testing, thanks!
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12:52 < quinq> ivdsangen, hummm, it's needed on my vmm, otherwise the clock drifts too much
12:52 < quinq> Maybe it's only on some VM implementations?
12:53 < quinq> (amd here)
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13:06 < ivdsangen> quinq: how fast do you notice this drift? my alpine vm runs only sometimes and i am on intel if it matters
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13:09 < quinq> ivdsangen, it's there from the start
13:09 < quinq> As in you'd have noticed it directly I think
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13:13 < ivdsangen> then my alpine is fine i guess
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13:22 < quinq> :)
13:22 < thrig> and if you get the clock drift just right, blue sparks
13:23 < quinq> Then launch a skud onto your next opponent, and you finish race first
13:23 < quinq> ivdsangen, it's even reproducible with a simple shell sleep
13:23 < quinq> while :; do date; sleep 1; done
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20:44 < rIMpossible> I started using wireguard on a new vps in FFM/DE. Works well. Now I want to use it also on android. Which app is known to be O/S and used by the OpenBSD community?
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20:45 < oldlaptop> There's an 'official' app maintained by wireguard upstream. (I assume #wireguard would be the place to discuss it)
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20:46 < rIMpossible> There is Wireguard (WireGuard Development Team), WG Tunnel (Zane Schepke) and more...
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20:46 < rIMpossible> oldlaptop: Thank you, I'll ask there
20:47 < oldlaptop> They link com.wireguard.android right on their "installation" page.
20:47 < rIMpossible> That's easier :)
20:49 < rIMpossible> oldlaptop: workx
20:49 < oldlaptop> (I don't know offhand whether it's just the userland go implementation - I would hope at least some androids have upstream kernel support to use by now, but maybe that's awkward for an "app" to poke on android)
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21:00 < mischief> com.wireguard.android does use go
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22:16 < morpho> how do you draw directly with dri/drm? mpv seems to work without xorg/wayland
22:16 < oldlaptop> on openbsd, I don't think you do
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22:16 < oldlaptop> (practically speaking, anyway)
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22:17 < morpho> kind of niche
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22:19 < morpho> but maybe useful for embedded stuff?
22:21 < oldlaptop> for better or worse, the hordes of people wanting to use openbsd on microcontrollers aren't exactly beating the doors down around here
22:22 < oldlaptop> It's hard to picture an application where OpenBSD would be appropriate and somehow X isn't acceptable overhead.
22:23 < ssm_> morpho: don't know, but maybe hunting in the tty kernel code at the point your display driver is loaded?
22:23 < ssm_> before that it's just using a generic driver
22:23 < ssm_> unless linux changed that and it's done earlier. I'm on fish linux though
22:24 < ssm_> oh wait thought this was #linux, sorry
22:24 < morpho> what you doing there ;)
22:24 < ssm_> still mostly the same answer
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22:25 < morpho> mpv was on example of an application that can do it
22:25 < morpho> i wonder if SDL stuff works
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22:58 < tvtoon> morpho: using the framebuffer, on Linux it is called graphic mode
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22:59 < tvtoon> I think access is default on wsfb
22:59 < morpho> usually you mmap some framebuffer
22:59 < morpho> fbdev was software rendering only though, you couldnt use vulkan or gl
23:00 < thrig> vulkan would be logical
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23:03 < morpho> thrig: think it can be done in vulkan?https://badland.io/vulkan-swapchain.md
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23:12 < djPoorly> Hello
23:12 < joepublic> Hello.
23:13 < djPoorly> Anyone going to the conference?
23:14 < djPoorly> In Canada
23:14 < djPoorly> It is a BSD conference I guess
23:14 < djPoorly> I want to learn about PF and I guess they are going to discuss it
23:15 < djPoorly> I did a PF ruleset and got 3 different AIs to look it over and they all told me it was good but I really want to learn more about it
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23:40 < morpho> ai bad
23:41 < joepublic> 3 different ai, 3xbad
23:41 < thumbs> They chose..... poorly.
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