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00:22 < fro> do you think no one has ever heard of alfredo ortega before?
00:22 < fro> this is how i know you have no business commenting on this
00:26 < ssm__> I certainly do not, and ddg doesn't provide any answers
00:30 < ssm__> I found a few entries on marc.info, but nothing indicating any significant prowess
00:32 < fro> well bud
00:32 < fro> one of those "only two remote holes" on the website is alfredo's
00:32 < fro> you're not very good at looking things up
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00:33 < ssm__> forgive me, the tech he boosts has made that very difficult
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00:34 < ssm__> this is his only thread in openbsd lists for marc.info lol https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=171810103406609&w=2
00:34 < ssm__> unless he has a different handle
00:35 < fro> no that's still him
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00:40 < ssm__> found it https://defcon.org/images/defcon-15/dc15-presentations/Ortega/Whitepaper/dc-15-ortega-WP.pdf
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00:41 < ssm__> that could be any alfredo ortega
00:42 < fro> it's not
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00:42 < ssm__> slash ess
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00:48 < ssm__> any particular reason they have a (seemingly) terrible relationship with fish linux?
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00:51 < fro> i don't think it's really that terrible
00:51 < fro> i think he's a bit rude as most security people seem to be
00:52 < fro> probably just wants to relive that 2007 moment
00:52 < fro> in any case maybe he finds nothing useful at all
00:53 < fro> but dismissing it all without a second thought won't help
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00:54 < fro> now that 10,000 check mail was fairly stupid but if he's going to find and report bugs that can be fixed then that's a good thing overall
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05:30 < rnkn> I've got recurrent filesystem corruption on /var on my production server and I'm a bit scared
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05:32 < rnkn> the host had a fault and the server got rebooted, which is when fsck caught it. I ran fsck_ffs manually and removed the corrupted files (sqlite WAL), took another snapshot, built a server from that snapshot and it still stopped with fsck
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07:04 < rnkn> do people still use dump(8)?
07:07 < Ove_> Only when in WC
07:07 < rnkn> ha
07:08 < IcePic> I think some do out of habit
07:09 < IcePic> its a decent tool for backups of partitions/filesystems for crash recovery purposes, though not as useful for "getting back that file I deleted 17 days ago"
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07:16 < k0ga> I use it
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07:25 < rIMpossible> G'morning
07:28 < rIMpossible> rnkn: I think it is - depending on the *.local variables - used in /etc/[daily|weekly|monthly].local
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07:30 < rIMpossible> for example: if you've made an /altroot partition in the size of /, setting ROOTBACKUP to 1 in /etc/daily.local and editing /etc/fstab accordingly. Then dump(8) is used 
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07:44 < rnkn> should I be running dump on /dev/rsd0* or just like on /var, /home, etc?
07:44 < rnkn> man page says I can do both but I gather one is better?
07:47 < rnkn> also I'm mounting the destination with sshfs-fuse but can I use rmt with ssh? rmt manpage seems to predate ssh
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08:16 < renaud> so, the 7.9 issue was not linked to carp
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09:50 < rnkn> okay I think I have answered my own questions 
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10:05 < rIMpossible> rnkn: that's the best users here ;p
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11:59 < rIMpossible> Hmmm, slashdot.org did not announce OpenBSD 7.9. https://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=OpenBSD
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12:15 < oldlaptop> It's also not even quite all the way dead yet, impressive
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13:05 < ssm__> no patch from ortega yet?
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13:24 < sonya> rnkn: and the question was? :)
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13:36 < mischief> sonya: > rnkn │ should I be running dump on /dev/rsd0* or just like on /var, /home, etc?
13:37 < mischief> for me, my crontab is: ~       5       *       *       6       dump -b64 -0auf - /    | ssh fugu@192.168.0.10 "zstd --compress --stdout | pv -o /srv/backups/fugu/slash-$(date +\%Y\%m\%d).dump0.zst"
13:37 < mischief> & etc for /home, /var
13:39 < mischief> works well enough, and for / produces a 96M compressed backup from 255M of raw dump data
13:39 < sonya> mischief: thanks.. guess as 'dump' intendet for files and not for block/raw devices, the answer is straightforward..
13:39 < sonya> ^intended..
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16:47 < polarian> https://openbsd.creator-spring.com/listing/openbsd-7-9?product=373&variation=100035
16:47 < polarian> I wish I had a job now
16:47 < polarian> well I have always wished
16:47 < polarian> the new artwork is so good
16:47 < polarian> I want it ;(
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19:50 < avemestr> PSA: I had troubles with ungoogled-chromium after upgrade to 7.9. Unveil-related, since it quit on startup, but worked fine with --disable-unveil. Probably some issue in /etc/ungoogled-chromium/unveil.main (which needed a patch at some time...). A "pkg_delete" followed by "pkg_add" worked fine. Contents in ~/.config/ungoogled-chromium untouched, so cookies and bookmarks etc. was there just fine
19:50 < avemestr> after re-install.
19:53 < humm> avemestr: someone else on ports@ had (presumably) the same problem; you may have been able to fix it with sysmerge
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19:58 < avemestr> humm: Ah, interesting. I did also try sysmerge, but it didn't give any pointers. I can see from that thread, that I should've run "sysmerge -p" because Kirill is right (that the culprit was unveil.main).
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20:02 < avemestr> I notice that was is missing from it was "/dev/null rw" for the latest to work.
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20:11 < echelon> what's the default password for root when building openbsd with resflash?
20:12 < avemestr> echelon: None.
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20:12 < echelon> i tried that
20:13 < avemestr> Sorry, old documentation.
20:13 < avemestr> "Root passwords are generated dynamically at build time in the form 'resflashYYYYMMDD', where YYYYMMDD corresponds to the date value in the image filename. After logging in, run /resflash/set_root_pass.sh to set and persist a new root password to /cfg."
20:13 < echelon> huh apparently it's resflashYYYYMMDD
20:13 < echelon> thanks
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20:15 < echelon> why is it that whenever it boots up, and tries to reorder the kernel it says disk is full
20:16 < echelon> shouldn't it be relinking in memory
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20:18 < echelon> also, how do i go about adding a new user
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21:22 < echelon> is there a way to disable automatic filesystem checks at boot?
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21:25 < echelon> rather, why does it fail when there's write access to the device
21:25 < echelon> and how would i disable the check
21:25 < echelon> no write access*
21:26 < pardis> could be any number of reasons
21:26 < pardis> reading the fsck output may help more than guessing
21:27 < pardis> and reading fstab(5) may help with disabling it
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21:29 < rnkn> I figured out dump by checking /etc/dumpdates; passing a file path just resolves to the device
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21:32 < humm> huh, what’s the cvsync directory on https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/ ?
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21:51 < echelon> pardis: https://i.imgur.com/raacX4S.png
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22:08 < ssm_> echelon: i won't give a direct answer because I think this is a bad idea and what ever you're doing is probably an xy, but check the `preen` option in fsck(8) as this is what's done at boot
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22:10 < ssm_> your image is telling you what to do
22:10 < echelon> ssm_: it's a bootable thumb drive with write protection feature. when i turn on write protection, i got the above message ^
22:11 < echelon> ssm_: how do i just proceed to boot without checking write access?
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22:20 < ssm_> *ddg's write protection* does your write protection just disable writes? /etc/fstab is trying to mount your device rw if so which would explain why this is happening. you'll need to disable write protection on your hardware and modify fstab, or escape to a shell and mount manually read only
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22:23 < echelon> ssm_: yeah, i think i need to just change the fstab for the specific partition
22:24 < ssm_> worm drive 2026
22:24 < echelon> huh
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