--- Log opened Sat May 30 00:00:34 2026
00:01 < Bradipo> Does nat-to not work with inet6 addresses?
00:02 < citbl> it shouldn't matter?
00:02 < Bradipo> Why not?
00:03 < Bradipo> My host doesn't have anything routed to it.
00:03 < Bradipo> It has an IPv6 address, but it isn't being routed an IPv6 subnet.
00:03 < Bradipo> But, the man page seems to imply that it might work.
00:04 < andchi>  /6
00:05 < andchi> gah, not the first time I made that error, if only I could prevent all less than 5 char messages hmm ...
00:07 < thrig> why?
00:07 < Bradipo> Yeah, alright, nat-to does work, I just had some stale state that wasn't clearing even though I had reloaded pf.conf.
00:10 < Bradipo> I have to admit, SSH is one of the niftiest tools out there.
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00:25 < JC_Denton> anyone particularly good at translating freebsd pf rulesets to openbsd's format?
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00:37 < mischief> yes, i'm the world's leading expert on freebsd pf to openbsd pf conversions, and that will be $500/hr, please and thank you
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00:45 < mischief> at some point i need to fix ipv6, but i am continually annoyed that dhcp6leased doesn't work right on my isp
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01:05 < deimosBSD> JC_Denton: you can probably write 1 ruleset that covers both OSes.
01:10 < JC_Denton> deimosBSD: it gets really close. just stumbling on some wireguard port forwarding atm.
01:12 < Bradipo> Does FreeBSD use the same pf(4) or something else?
01:13 < deimosBSD> freebsd has diverged from openbsd's pf for many years, but there is still 75% overlap in exact commands and functionality in my experience.
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01:16 < pardis> it's the same pf(4) in the sense that it was copied from OpenBSD into FreeBSD about 15 years ago
01:16 < pardis> but never synced again (afaik)
01:16 < pardis> also, I would understand what the ruleset is doing and why, and then write a new ruleset for OpenBSD pf that meets the same requirements
01:17 < pardis> you might be surprised how often you find the ruleset you started with was wrong to begin with when you understand what it's doing
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01:22 < Bradipo> Ahh, so they haven't maintained it.  Do they have their own packet filter that they can use for firewall?
01:28 < pardis> they have maintained it, but as a fork
01:29 < pardis> hence the divergence
01:31 < JC_Denton> yeah, i've distilled it down to just a few lines. the problem is it's not sending NATed traffic out the right interface when Wireguard is the intended outbound int.
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03:12 < deimosBSD> my solution was to go pure ipv6 and just use live IPs everywhere. nat is an abomination. others have differing opinions. ;)
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04:05 < thrig> nat daemon
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04:34 < citbl> JC_Denton: llms would be good for this
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07:29 < lts> They just autocomplete you a config that mixes FreeBSD PF into the mix
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07:30 < lts> Or just purely hallucinate config options
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09:41 < remiliascarlet> Whenever I stop a server, OpenBSD keeps a port active for a while for some reason. Why is that?
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09:57 < citbl> ghost mode
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09:58 < cgnarne> remiliascarlet: what do you mean by server, what do you mean by port?
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10:27 < remiliascarlet> I mean any kind of server daemon and any port number.
10:28 < remiliascarlet> So if you run on port 7000 for example, and then you restart it, OpenBSD still thinks 7000 is in use even after it having already killed the process that took up the port number, and it'll stay that way for 30 seconds to 2 minutes or something.
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10:58 < metavoid> remiliascarlet: never heard or had that issue so must be something in your environment. How do you verify this?
10:59 < metavoid> I wouldn't be suprised if some types of software waits out until some sessions against it has closed gracefully.
10:59 < cgnarne> can't reproduce that. if i rcctl stop httpd, fstat shows no open files. i can rcctl start httpd without problems
10:59 < cgnarne> rcctl restart is also fine
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11:13 < metavoid> sshd is kind enough to not close all connections if you restart it, think haproxy works in a similar way
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11:14 < metavoid> but it doesn't complain when restarting
11:14 < lts> Nginx stream closes connections upon restart, unfortunately
11:14 < lts> (Probably other modules than stream too)
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18:15 < remiliascarlet> metavoid: Simple: you restart, it stops successfully, but fails to start. Then run `rcctl -d start (your_daemon)`, and it'll tell you something like "port is in use". It doesn't happen with everything, just some daemons. Especially those written in Go or Zig.
18:16 < remiliascarlet> I didn't have as much issues with server daemons written in C, C++, or Rust though.
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18:32 < broke> is there something like tp_smapi for openbsd?
18:33 < thrig> what is tp_smapi but probably no
18:33 < broke> its something from linux that handles battery charge_start and charge_stop thresholds
18:34 < broke> (for older thinkpads)
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19:00 < cgnarne> https://rak.ac/blog/2023-12-20-battery-charge-start-stop-threshold-on-openbsd/
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21:30 < polarian> does anyone know if OpenBSD supports IPv6 nexthop now?
21:30 < polarian> I heard it might be supported in the latest release
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21:36 < cgnarne> here's am idea. give it a try...
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