--- Log opened Sun Jun 07 00:00:45 2026 00:11 -!- qbit [~qbit@user/qbit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14 -!- schneid3306 [~schneid33@pool-100-6-139-51.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openbsd 00:15 -!- ariadna [~ariadna@user/arivigo] has joined #openbsd 00:16 -!- ariadna [~ariadna@user/arivigo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16 -!- ariadna [~ariadna@user/arivigo] has joined #openbsd 00:27 -!- qbit [~qbit@user/qbit] has joined #openbsd 00:30 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: drathir_tor, unixpro1970, echelon, DarkTaffy, martian67, jerryf, memset, nedko 00:31 < WhyNotHugo> /tmp is not mounted tmpfs by default, correct? 00:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: martian67 00:33 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jerryf, nedko 00:33 -!- Netsplit over, joins: echelon 00:35 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 00:35 -!- DarkTaffy [~oldben@user/Old-Ben-Jabroni] has joined #openbsd 00:37 < mischief> WhyNotHugo: it's ffs by default. 00:38 < WhyNotHugo> Thanks! 00:40 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 00:41 < TommyC> it is for fucks sake by default? :3 00:43 < pardis> moreover, there is no tmpfs (in the GENERIC kernels) 00:44 < WhyNotHugo> Really? But man mount_tmpfs shows me documentation for it 00:44 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45 < pardis> have you tried to actually use it? 00:45 < WhyNotHugo> mount_tmpfs: tmpfs on /tmp/test: Operation not supported 00:45 < WhyNotHugo> lol 00:45 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 00:45 -!- tux100_ [~tux100@user/tux100] has joined #openbsd 00:48 -!- tux100 [~tux100@user/tux100] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:49 < pardis> it seems like the docs were never unhooked from the build, which is probably technically correct, since the userland bits are still installed 00:49 < pardis> just not the kernel bits 00:50 < pardis> I'd be surprised if the kernel code even still works after all these years 00:52 -!- talisc [~user@2804:1338:18c:c100:63d7:67a7:cfab:b563] has joined #openbsd 00:52 < WhyNotHugo> Maybe there was an idea of resurrecting it some day? 00:53 -!- talisc 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Needs an unmount and remount to clear the memory. 19:25 < topcat001> I use a mfs for browser cache and have to do this periodically. 19:26 -!- kris_ [~kris_@user/kris-:46098] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:29 -!- dutch [~DutchIngr@user/dutch] has joined #openbsd 19:32 -!- rv1sr [~rv1sr@user/rv1sr] has quit [] 19:33 -!- lun01 [~lun01@user/lun01] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:36 -!- kris_ [~kris_@user/kris-:46098] has joined #openbsd 19:38 -!- librecat [uid714233@id-714233.helmsley.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:42 < echelon> is there a way to pledge access to /dev/urandom without having to use rpath? 19:43 < echelon> in a pledge promise, that is 19:48 -!- macabro [~user@user/monkey/x-0691028] has joined #openbsd 19:49 -!- macabro [~user@user/monkey/x-0691028] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50 -!- kafkaenjoyer [~kafkaenjo@user/kafkaenjoyer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50 -!- macabro [~user@user/monkey/x-0691028] has joined #openbsd 19:51 -!- atomheart [~atomheart@user/atomheart] has joined #openbsd 19:51 < mischief> open it first, then pledge? 19:54 -!- unixpro1970 [~unixpro19@gateway/tor-sasl/unixpro1970] has joined #openbsd 20:01 -!- rscastilho2024_ [rscastilho@user/rscastilho2024-:23901] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:02 -!- bba [~bba@user/bba] has joined #openbsd 20:04 -!- psydroid [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has joined #openbsd 20:10 -!- paulf [~paulf@2a01:cb15:8545:7700:62cf:84ff:fe81:caec] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:12 -!- lagrange [~john@user/lagrange] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:13 -!- blkflg151 [~blkflg151@172.56.107.132] has joined #openbsd 20:13 < echelon> mischief: no, i need to keep accessing it 20:14 -!- blkflg151 [~blkflg151@172.56.107.132] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20:14 -!- blkflg151 [~blkflg151@172.56.107.132] has joined #openbsd 20:14 -!- blkflg151 [~blkflg151@172.56.107.132] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has joined #openbsd 20:17 -!- Plasmoduck [~cjg@mx1.adamsgaard.dk] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.7.1] 20:20 -!- tvtoon [~The_cUnix@user/tvtoon] has joined #openbsd 20:20 -!- gnucode [~user@72.12.205.23] has joined #openbsd 20:22 < echelon> mischief: apparently i can use getentropy(2) without access to /dev/urandom? 20:31 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:32 -!- broke [~broke@user/broke] has joined #openbsd 20:32 -!- ewig [~ewig@user/ewig] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:37 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 20:39 -!- broke [~broke@user/broke] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:42 -!- broke [~broke@user/broke] has joined #openbsd 20:51 -!- psydroid [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.2.6 Quasar http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:52 -!- elarks [~elarks@user/yerrii] has joined #openbsd 20:54 -!- ninjacato [~Thunderbi@user/ninjacato] has joined #openbsd 21:00 -!- shadowtux [~shadowtux@user/meow/shadowtux] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 21:06 -!- sjg [~sjg@user/sjg] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:07 < mischief> echelon: that sounds right 21:07 < mischief> getentropy is even in POSIX now :-) 21:07 -!- sjg [~sjg@user/sjg] has joined #openbsd 21:10 -!- librecat [uid714233@id-714233.helmsley.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 21:12 -!- rc [~rc@user/rc] has joined #openbsd 21:13 -!- atomheart [~atomheart@user/atomheart] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:27 -!- dutch [~DutchIngr@user/dutch] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3] 21:29 -!- gnucode [~user@72.12.205.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34 -!- singsangsung [~singsangs@2601:8c1:c100:71e0:f42d:9b65:cdc4:e8b7] has joined #openbsd 21:34 -!- singsangsung [~singsangs@2601:8c1:c100:71e0:f42d:9b65:cdc4:e8b7] has quit [Changing host] 21:34 -!- singsangsung [~singsangs@user/singsangsung] has joined #openbsd 21:53 -!- gnucode [~user@72.12.205.23] has joined #openbsd 22:10 -!- hotsoup [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1+deb2+b3 - https://znc.in] 22:13 -!- hotsoup [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has joined #openbsd 22:16 -!- td123 [~tom@user/td123] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:26 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:29 -!- JurassCZ_ [~JurassCZ@194-212-161-100.customers.tmcz.cz] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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