--- Log opened Sun Jun 21 00:00:04 2026 --- Day changed Sun Jun 21 2026 00:00 -!- tvtoon [~The_cUnix@user/tvtoon] has joined #openbsd 00:04 < mischief> are they the same size? 00:10 < deimosBSD> no, new one is larger 00:10 < deimosBSD> 500gb to 2tb 00:11 < deimosBSD> the 500gb is dying 00:11 < deimosBSD> amazingly a new 500gb costs more than this spare 2tb i have sitting around 00:11 < deimosBSD> i should sell it to an ai company 00:16 < mischief> you probably want to dump/restore then after making appropriately sized new partitions 00:17 < thrig> anything that changes inodes may require bootloader foo 00:38 < deimosBSD> my plan was to dump and then install on new drive, then restore 00:38 < deimosBSD> just pondering if dd/growfs is quicker 00:40 < mischief> depends on your partition layout. you cannot easily grow a partition in the middle 00:46 -!- raj [uid72176@user/raj] has joined #openbsd 00:48 < deimosBSD> indeed 00:54 -!- ogopogo [~ogopogo@fixed-187-190-186-47.totalplay.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:59 -!- ivdsangen [~ivo@83-82-34-145.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #openbsd 01:13 -!- tangentnet [~tangentne@user/tangentnet] has joined #openbsd 01:19 -!- td123 [~tom@user/td123] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:29 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Quit: ublx] 01:31 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:1106:8a00::1c19] has joined #openbsd 01:32 -!- cow321 [~deflated8@user/meow/deflated8837] has joined #openbsd 01:36 -!- kc3zyt [~kc3zyt@user/kc3zyt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:48 -!- Ozymandias42_ [~Ozymandia@user/Ozymandias42] has joined #openbsd 01:49 -!- Ozymandias42 [~Ozymandia@user/Ozymandias42] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:49 -!- Ozymandias42_ is now known as Ozymandias42 01:50 -!- jitter [~jitter@user/jitter] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:52 -!- jitter [~jitter@134.101.198.178.dynamic-pppoe.dt.ipv4.wtnet.de] has joined #openbsd 01:52 -!- jitter [~jitter@134.101.198.178.dynamic-pppoe.dt.ipv4.wtnet.de] has quit [Changing host] 01:52 -!- jitter [~jitter@user/jitter] has joined #openbsd 02:11 -!- harrus [~harrus@85-155-228-172.alb.avsisp.com] has joined #openbsd 02:19 -!- mover [~hischild@user/mover] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:19 -!- harrus [~harrus@85-155-228-172.alb.avsisp.com] has quit [Changing host] 02:19 -!- harrus [~harrus@user/harrus] has joined #openbsd 02:27 -!- vdamewood [~vdamewood@fedora/vdamewood] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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luck.. if there's an examples - tried to google and not found - please point me at'em.. thanks! 10:22 -!- hwpplayer1 [~hwpplayer@user/hwpplayer1] has joined #openbsd 10:28 -!- Chewbakka85 [~chewy@irc.chewbakka.ch] has quit [Quit: Yes there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on!] 10:30 -!- Chewbakka85 [~chewy@irc.chewbakka.ch] has joined #openbsd 10:42 -!- elagost [~elagost@user/elagost] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.9.2] 10:44 -!- Ozymandias42 [~Ozymandia@user/Ozymandias42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:48 -!- hwpplayer1 [~hwpplayer@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Quit: I ...] 10:49 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:55 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has joined #openbsd 10:58 -!- deltahotel [~deltahote@user/deltahotel] has quit [Quit: nyaa~] 10:59 -!- elagost [~elagost@user/elagost] has joined #openbsd 11:02 -!- psydroid [~psydroid@user/psydroid] 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ZZZzzz…] 15:45 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45 -!- vados [~vados@46-133-184-158.mobile.vf-ua.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:51 -!- Pixi` is now known as Pixi 15:52 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 15:57 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 16:10 -!- hotsoup_ [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1+deb2+b3 - https://znc.in] 16:10 -!- jambove [~jambove@BC063DC8.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:11 -!- schbax [~schbax@user/schbax] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:11 -!- jambove [~jambove@BC063A56.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 16:13 -!- hotsoup [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has joined #openbsd 16:19 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:39 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:02 -!- toxic063 [~toxic0@82.67.176.107] has joined #openbsd 17:07 -!- fredrikb [~fredrikb@h-158-174-138-47.A980.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:11 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has joined #openbsd 17:22 < skippy8> Hello, I am using the autoinstall to install my computers. In the autoinstall file I am including the user & root 17:22 < skippy8> passwords in encrypted form. I am also encrypting my hard drive, but that password can be included only in 17:22 < skippy8> plaintext form. Do you know if it is possible to somehow encode also the hdd password? 17:31 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Quit: ublx] 17:32 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 17:33 -!- fgarcia [~lei@user/fgarcia] has quit [Quit: Remote host closed the connection] 17:46 -!- fgarcia [~lei@user/fgarcia] has joined #openbsd 17:47 -!- vdamewood [~vdamewood@fedora/vdamewood] has joined #openbsd 17:47 < vortexx> skippy8: probably can't be done. I imagine autoinstall copies the encrypted passwords to the /etc/master.passwd file but can't do that to encrypt the drive. 17:50 -!- lusciouslover [~luscious@user/lusciouslover] has quit [Quit: K-Lined] 17:50 < IcePic> and even if you did encrypt the drive encryption password, you would have to supply this second pw to the installer so it could use it, and then you would want to encrypt that one with a third encryption.. 17:51 -!- \podcast [~join_podc@69-165-245-79.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined #openbsd 17:52 -!- lusciouslover [~luscious@user/lusciouslover] has joined #openbsd 17:55 -!- x7e [~x7e@user/x7e] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 17:55 -!- x7e [~x7e@user/x7e] has joined #openbsd 18:02 -!- gumnos [~gumnos@2600:382:3438:904c:ba70:f4ff:fe1e:1ef2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:07 < skippy8> OK, thanks for explanation! 18:13 < vortexx> the devs have usually thought of all the edge cases 18:13 < vortexx> OpenBSD ones tend to be rather atune to that 18:14 -!- gumnos [~gumnos@2600:382:3438:904c:ba70:f4ff:fe1e:1ef2] has joined #openbsd 18:16 -!- harrus [~harrus@user/harrus] has joined #openbsd 18:20 -!- grimpeux0 [~grimpeux@107.171.158.93] has joined #openbsd 18:21 < thrig> Kerberos tends to avoid sending passwords over the network but on the other hand Kerberos is rather complicated 18:21 -!- grimpeux [~grimpeux@107.171.158.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 251 seconds] 18:21 -!- grimpeux0 is now known as grimpeux 18:27 -!- zcram [~zcram@user/zcram] has quit [Quit: Do the right thing!] 18:29 < vortexx> thrig: ever deployed Kerberos succesfully? 18:29 -!- psydroid [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:29 < thrig> yes 18:30 < vortexx> the one or two times I looked at it for homelab it seemed so overly complicated 18:30 < vortexx> especially between the two variants 18:30 < vortexx> thrig: nice 18:30 < vortexx> (iirc I wanted it to use OpenLDAP with it) 18:30 < vortexx> s/wanted it/wanted 18:33 -!- chasmo77 [~chas77@c-76-105-254-179.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: It's just that easy] 18:36 -!- ivdsangen [~ivo@83-82-34-145.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:42 -!- zippy [~quassel@188.27.35.45] has joined #openbsd 18:44 -!- \podcast [~join_podc@69-165-245-79.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:46 -!- rv1sr [~rv1sr@user/rv1sr] has quit [] 18:47 -!- rv1sr [~rv1sr@user/rv1sr] has joined #openbsd 18:52 -!- inky [~inky@37.252.77.193] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:54 -!- leo_ [~leo@arioch.leonhardt.eu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:54 -!- \podcast [~join_podc@69-165-245-79.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined #openbsd 19:00 -!- leo_ [~leo@arioch.leonhardt.eu] has joined #openbsd 19:00 -!- Ozymandias42 [~Ozymandia@user/Ozymandias42] has joined #openbsd 19:03 -!- tangentnet [~tangentne@user/tangentnet] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:08 -!- deimosBSD [~deimos@user/realdeimos] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1] 19:08 -!- harrus [~harrus@user/harrus] has left #openbsd [The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 19:10 -!- cr4sh0v3rrid3 [~cr4sh0v3r@user/cr4sh0v3rrid3] has quit [Quit: Gone to find myself. 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