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12:18 < quinq> Hummm, I cannot run arbitrary code in pf to decide the outcome of a packet, right?
12:18 < quinq> (like a hook)
12:27 < dlg> no, sorry
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12:46 < IcePic> quinq: closest would be some divert-to thing and reinserts it depending on your rules, I guess
12:47 < renaud> it really depends on what you are tryinug to do
12:49 < quinq> Looking up address in a blacklist I cannot directly integrate in a regular list (anchor)
12:50 < renaud> why not create a table and insert/remove based on your needs?
12:53 < Ove_> Did I just witness the classic xy problem?
12:53 < Ove_> https://xyproblem.info/
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12:55 < renaud> funny page
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13:03 < citbl> somebody bought a domain just for this?
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13:08 < Ove_> I use it at work alot.
13:08 < Ove_> Quick way to avoid confusion and misconceptions
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13:19 < quinq> renaud, that's exactly my point
13:19 < quinq> I want to be able to insert/remove based on the “needs” ie incoming connection
13:19 < quinq> Ove_, I don't think you are
13:20 < quinq> *or did
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13:27 < ssm_> https://howdoesmycode.work/tmp/10316.png
13:27 < ssm_> status bar progress
13:28 < renaud> quinq: what is deciding for the needs? That's probably where you need to look at.
13:28 < mischief> ssm_: rewriting conky? :)
13:29 < ssm_> sort of
13:32 < ssm_> I'm using lemonbar+awk at the moment. I want less cpu usage so I'm using xlib+libc
13:32 < ssm_> and I get cool graphics too
13:33 < quinq> renaud, I don't get what you mean
13:33 < quinq> The need is incoming packets
13:34 < renaud> the program which receives the packets should know when it needs to receive them, isn't it?
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13:34 < quinq> renaud, the program being pf
13:35 < renaud> I think that if you want help, you will have to describe what you want to do.
13:35 < quinq> I already did
13:36 < quinq> And didn't really ask for (that kind of) help
13:36 < quinq> But IcePic already gave some help hinting at divert, I'll see about it
13:38 < Ove_> Why do you want to do it?
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14:32 < izder456> silly question, just for curiosity's sake and a friend who asked me. how does OpenBSD handle wifi regulatory domains? does it just lean on the chipset firmware? my friend lives in japan and is paranoid about their strict rules regarding wifi regulatory domains
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14:42 < that_lurker> it should use the device firmware for that, but the frequency should anyway be given to it by the wifi access point and those should always hopefully follow the countrys regulation.
14:43 < izder456> ah so no extra work from an os-level is needed for compliance then?
14:44 < izder456> like there's no special ifconfig sub-command you'd need to fit compliance
14:46 < that_lurker> should be fine from the start. You can always mess with ifconfig <interface> chan if you cannot find your network
14:46 < izder456> thanks so much
14:46 < izder456> ill relay that to her
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16:16 < chara> hi there.
16:17 < chara> can i send raw usb commands to a usb device that is NOT ugen?
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17:23 < CaffeineCanidae> Hiya!
17:23 < CaffeineCanidae> Is this the right place to ask questions or is there a different channel that would be better? 
17:24 < CaffeineCanidae> It's to do with networking and Wi-Fi firmware, if that helps 
17:24 < pardis> you'd need to ask the channel for questions about asking questions that
17:24 < pardis> (also yes, user support is this channel's purpose)
17:24 < CaffeineCanidae> pardis, you make a good point 
17:24 < CaffeineCanidae> Lmao
17:26 < CaffeineCanidae> Well, I've recently installed on a T60, which I've got a Atheros AR9462 - a Mini PCIe Wi-Fi card that has libre drivers 
17:27 < CaffeineCanidae> I've read that generally libre drivers are pre-installed, the firmware packages are assumedly only for non-free firmware, however I don't seem to be able to see my Wi-Fi card when checking for possible connection interfaces 
17:29 < CaffeineCanidae> Is there anything I have possibly missed during the install or set-up? Or is there a way to check if my Wi-Fi card is supported at all? 
17:29 < ivdsangen> have you checked dmesg?
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17:34 < pardis> you seem to be mixing up drivers and firmware
17:34 < pardis> all drivers are installed, and if your device doesn't show up in ifconfig then it isn't supported
17:34 < pardis> but some drivers require firmware before the device will *work*
17:34 < pardis> there should be a line in dmesg saying "not configured" for an unsupported device,
17:36 < CaffeineCanidae> Sorry if this is a dumb question but what would the dmesg command be for checking the wifi card? I've not really used dmesg before
17:37 < thrig> dmesg | less
17:38 < CaffeineCanidae> thrig: Huh... yeah I think I was just mixing it up with grep commands that didn't return anything before, probably should've tried that lmao
17:39 < thrig> dmesg | grep -i 'wi.*fi'  or look at all the devices, read the man pages to get a general lay of the land
17:41 < CaffeineCanidae> Well, looking at pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 "Atheros AR9462"
17:41 < CaffeineCanidae> Surprisingly remembered it correctly which one 
17:41 < CaffeineCanidae> And yes, it says not configured 
17:42 < CaffeineCanidae> That's a start
17:43 < CaffeineCanidae> So I'd need the athn firmware for this to work? 
17:44 < thrig> presumably one would read athn(4) for starters
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17:47 < oldlaptop> No, if it says "not configured", there is no driver.
17:48 < CaffeineCanidae> Hmmm, yeah that's what I was just reading
17:48 < CaffeineCanidae> Doesn't seem like there's any support for it on ath or athn
17:48 < oldlaptop> (you'll note athn(4) does not list "AR9462" as a supported device)
17:49 < CaffeineCanidae> Seems like there's support on FreeBSD but I might be out of luck on OpenBSD
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17:49 < oldlaptop> If you happen to have the intel device (ISTR my t60p has a wpi(4)) that (probably) came in the thing, that is much more likely to work
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17:51 < CaffeineCanidae> oldlaptop: Yeah I think I probably do have it around but I might opt for a dongle if it's possible as swapping would remove support on my Gentoo install on my main drive (OpenBSD is on an external drive mounted on the lid)
17:51 < CaffeineCanidae> (I'd deblobbed the kernel and added @FREE only on my Gentoo install) 
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17:54 < CaffeineCanidae> Well, seems like I'm going to have to do a little more research, and maybe possibly find a Wi-Fi card that will work on both - or possibly opt for a dongle, whichever is cheaper (the old Atheros cards tend to not be too expensive anyway) 
17:54 < CaffeineCanidae> Thank you for the support though! Glad to know I wasn't just doing stuff wrong, I can live on wired connection for the moment :) 
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19:00 < ssm_> openbsd should be immune to libavcodec RCE because of ASLR, ASLR doubters in shambles
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19:29 < fro> yes, ASLR known to be flawed and bypassable is going to save the day
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19:43 < fro> no one ever chains exploits together or find address leaks or anything like that
19:43 < fro> no sir
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20:40 < ssm_> can I offer you a PIE in these trying times
20:41 < ssm_> complicating an exploit is still buys more time for patching
20:46 < fro> i mean it's already patched in a new version of FFmpeg
20:46 < fro> that's not the issue
20:47 < fro> the issue is that bypassing some or all mitigations is fairly straightfoward and thinking one is going to stop eveyrthing is riiduclous
20:48 < cgnarne> i don't think anyone was implying that
20:49 < fro> <ssm_> openbsd should be immune to libavcodec RCE because of ASLR, ASLR doubters
20:49 < fro> in shambles
20:49 < fro> what else does that imply?
20:49 < fro> what conversation are you reading?
20:50  * oldlaptop would rather stick to "Confused? So is the attacker!"
20:50 < fro> no one is confused by ASLR in 2026
20:51 < cgnarne> fro: lighten up, francis
20:51 < fro> it's disabled in the example POC becuase it's a POC meant to show the underlying bug and not mitigation bypasses
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21:00 < fro> 🙄
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21:01 < ssm_> <i mean it's already patched in a new version of FFmpeg> I meant for users patching their own ffmpeg installs, but sure that's true too
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22:37 < deimosBSD> is it know that freebsd15 won't start in vmd?  Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode is what I see when I start the kernel on the install dvd
22:40 < deimosBSD> occurs on 15.0 and 15.1 release iso images
22:40 < deimosBSD> same image works elsewhere and checksum matches
22:40 < ssm_> freebsd never worked in vmm to my knowledge
22:40 < ssm_> or netbsd
22:41 < deimosBSD> hmm
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