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If so then pledge affects all threads that run in the same proc 04:28 < cgnarne> also what makes you think pledge can be interrupted mid syscall? what do expect would happen in that case? 04:50 -!- rc [~rc@user/rc] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:53 -!- sandmanXpuff [~sandmanXp@user/sandmanXpuff] has joined #openbsd 04:57 -!- jambove [~jambove@BC06399B.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:58 -!- takonogo [~takonogo@user/takonogo] has joined #openbsd 04:59 -!- jambove [~jambove@BC06399B.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 05:00 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 05:02 -!- takonogo [~takonogo@user/takonogo] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:07 -!- takonogo [~takonogo@user/takonogo] has joined #openbsd 05:11 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:1106:8a00::1c19] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:20 -!- Bradipo [t2faqk32xv@50.77.44.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:24 -!- Oxygen887 [~user@user/Oxygen887] has joined #openbsd 05:36 -!- sjg [~sjg@user/sjg] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:37 < mischief> goroutines are not threads. 05:37 -!- sjg [~sjg@user/sjg] has joined #openbsd 05:40 < rudi_s> Oh, if pledge affects all threads of a process, then AllThreadsSyscall and similar is irrelevant and calling it will suffice. 05:40 < rudi_s> (goroutines are not threads, but they are executed in threads.) 05:41 < rudi_s> (Also no need to pin a goroutine to a specific thread using LockOSThread in that case. It just needs to run at all.) 05:42 -!- tribaal [~tribaal@ubuntu/member/tribaal] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 05:43 -!- tribaal [~tribaal@ubuntu/member/tribaal] has joined #openbsd 05:52 < mischief> note that behavior is not portable, and one of the reasons go is subtly awful. 05:52 -!- AlaskanEmily [~emily@user/alaskanemily] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:52 -!- fstd [~fstd@xdsl-78-34-189-192.nc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 242 seconds] 05:53 < mischief> for example, trying to use setresuid on openbsd in go might work, but on linux it would only affect the thread the goroutine happened to be on at the time. 05:54 -!- fstd [~fstd@xdsl-213-196-251-135.nc.de] has joined #openbsd 05:58 -!- crash_ [~crash_@h-176-10-196-24.A980.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:03 -!- x7e [~x7e@user/x7e] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 06:03 -!- x7e [~x7e@user/x7e] has joined #openbsd 06:07 -!- jakesyl______ [sid56879@hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit 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seconds] 06:13 -!- kylophone [sid403812@id-403812.uxbridge.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 06:13 < cgnarne> interesting. so reaching for syscalls directly from go can have interesting effects depending on the os? 06:13 -!- rc [~rc@user/rc] has joined #openbsd 06:14 -!- memset_ [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:14 < thrig> most OS: go pound sand. linux: okay! 06:14 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 06:15 -!- jkkm [sid181533@id-181533.tinside.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 06:16 -!- dastain [~dastain@2a00:d880:6:262::45a3] has joined #openbsd 06:19 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 06:20 -!- sandmanXpuff [~sandmanXp@user/sandmanXpuff] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:30 -!- psydroid [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has joined #openbsd 06:38 -!- \subline [~join_subl@69-165-245-79.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:40 < mischief> cgnarne: it's just a difference in how 'task' context works and operations that mutate it 06:41 < mischief> in linux, glibc bends over backward to hide this from you, but go does not try 06:41 < mischief> on the other hand, every sane openbsd program is single threaded as god intended, so this is a non-issue. :^) 06:47 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has joined #openbsd 06:47 -!- sonofaglitch [~sebastian@77.95.167.116] has quit [] 06:49 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has joined #openbsd 06:53 -!- grimpeux2 [~grimpeux@107.171.158.93] has joined #openbsd 06:54 -!- grimpeux [~grimpeux@107.171.158.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:54 -!- grimpeux2 is now known as grimpeux 06:59 -!- viq|w1 [~viq@user/viq] has joined #openbsd 06:59 -!- viq|w [~viq@user/viq] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:07 -!- psydroid [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:07 < rudi_s> (go also does try .. on Linux ... the AllThreadsSyscall change in Go 1.16 automatically adds the behavior for syscall.Setuid and similar.) 07:08 -!- seoul_man [~meh@user/seoul-man/x-5066766] has joined #openbsd 07:09 -!- martian67 [~martian67@user/meow/martian67] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:09 -!- martian67_ [~martian67@user/meow/martian67] has joined #openbsd 07:09 -!- martian67_ is now known as martian67 07:10 -!- bba [~bba@user/bba] has joined #openbsd 07:12 -!- JetpackJackson_ [~JetpackJa@98.97.167.81] has joined #openbsd 07:13 -!- JetpackJackson [~JetpackJa@user/JetpackJackson] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:13 -!- m1dnight [~m1dnight@d8D861A17.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:16 -!- rawgreaze [~rawgreaze@user/rawgreaze] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:17 < sonya> hello.. it's second time when 'sndiod' hangs my notebook: 99.9% of cpu usage in 'top' and that's all i could see before blank screen.. no core file, forced shutdown/reboot.. any idea how to trace things? thanks! 07:17 -!- rawgreaze [~rawgreaze@user/rawgreaze] has joined 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with egdb you can try to grab some snapshots of the stacks to profile 07:27 < mischief> this is an old trick - see https://poormansprofiler.org/ 07:30 -!- Minall [~user@user/Minall] has joined #openbsd 07:34 -!- JetpackJackson_ [~JetpackJa@98.97.167.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:35 -!- JetpackJackson [~JetpackJa@129.222.1.11] has joined #openbsd 07:36 -!- Evilham [~evilham@2a0f-de00-fe00-6300-ab-45ff-fe54-9878.ipv6.at.exonet.cat] has joined #openbsd 07:38 -!- housemate [~housemate@2403-4800-940a-3401-2eee-3a55-959e-c5b7.sta.dodo.net.au] has joined #openbsd 07:38 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:39 -!- unlucy [sid572875@user/unlucy] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:42 -!- emmanuelux [~em@user/emmanuelux] has quit [Quit: bye] 07:42 -!- unlucy [sid572875@user/unlucy] has joined #openbsd 07:44 < sonya> mischief: tanks, looking.. 07:47 -!- b50d [~b50d@62.96.54.30] has joined #openbsd 07:49 -!- dustinm` 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passphrase, and the kernel loads, but crashes and reboots shortlay after i think before securelevel is elevated) 12:14 < welcome> I need data off that system before I reinstall 12:14 < welcome> the stupid version of me accidentally wiped my backup prepapring a new install7.img on the only backup of the data I have 12:15 < welcome> *install79.img 12:15 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15 < welcome> What should I do? 12:15 < welcome> Oddly, when I try booting the installer, that too crashes and reboots 12:15 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 12:15 < oldlaptop> That sounds more like there's something wrong with the machine - bad power supply, maybe? 12:16 < welcome> Perhaps my BIOS has been hacked ??? 12:16 < welcome> Well I'm using the same machine now with Fedora 44 with zero problem 12:17 < oldlaptop> I imagine this is pointless, but: no, it is not very likely someone "hacked" you for the sole purpose of causing your computer to boot-loop. 12:17 -!- tangentnet_ [~tangent@user/tangentnet] has joined #openbsd 12:17 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:17 -!- tangentnet [~tangent@user/tangentnet] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:18 < oldlaptop> Given that another possibility is a failing disk, you probably should copy whatever you want off of the thing sooner rather than later. 12:18 -!- tangentnet_ [~tangent@user/tangentnet] has quit [Client Quit] 12:18 < welcome> I would like to do that 12:18 < oldlaptop> (That wouldn't explain the installer failing.) 12:19 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19 < welcome> I don't know the best way to do that as I do not have NvMe support anywhere else in the house 12:19 -!- tangentnet_ [~tangent@user/tangentnet] has joined #openbsd 12:19 -!- jmp0 [~jmp0@46.23.90.211] has joined #openbsd 12:19 < welcome> and the openbsd data is on an ... NvMe disk 12:19 < oldlaptop> You just said you're running a different operating system on the same machine. 12:20 < welcome> Anything you can help with will be appreciated 12:20 < welcome> yes 12:20 < welcome> Fedora44 12:20 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 12:21 < oldlaptop> Unless you're doing that by unplugging one disk and plugging the other in (...don't do that), wouldn't it be possible to access the thing from the system that is running now? 12:21 < oldlaptop> (image the disk, even mount ffs filesystems - most linuxes should leave the ufs driver enabled at least read-only) 12:22 < welcome> According to Google, it is not supported on Fedora44 12:22 < oldlaptop> That would be surprising. 12:22 < welcome> I doubt it is the disk, becuase the installer has the same problem.... but hey that makes it unlikely it is firmware 12:23 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:27 -!- memset 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