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09:17 < eduart> hi, i am trying to et my wifi card working on openbsd but the kernel leaves the interface unconfigured. i have the mt7921
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10:01 < il> deimosBSD: I used to get StoryBundles for DRM-free non-pirated books, but the avg quality of books there was low enough that I gave it up.
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10:53 < eduart>  
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11:33 < Filystyn> hello
11:34 < Filystyn> what was the way to record audio, there was some move with sndio ?
11:34 < Filystyn> sndiod maeby ?
11:35 < Filystyn> yeah seem sniod manual
11:35 < Filystyn> sndiod*
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11:39 < Filystyn> ok it's in the multimedia faq cool no problem thx guys!
11:40 < sibiria> yw
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12:08 < il> haha
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20:21 < mischief> can someone remind me if running swapless is a supported configuration
20:22 < sibiria> officially, you mean? don't think so. technically, absolutely
20:24 < mischief> i've been chasing a bug running openbsd riscv64 under a riscv64 linux/kvm host
20:24 < mischief> and it seems to be happening because of no swap
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20:27 < sibiria> no matter how much RAM you give the guest?
20:27 < mischief> it has 2gb, processes die basically at random on page faults when there's nearly all of it free
20:28 < mischief> it's a bug in uvm, i'm seeing if i can fix it. but the easy solution would be to just add swap :)
20:28 < sibiria> specific to riscv64 perhaps
20:28 < sibiria> my primary system does have swap, but next to that system i have and have had several with both small and medium amounts of RAM and no swap, without any problems ever
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20:32 < mischief> unclear if it's riscv64 specific but it might need a combination of running MP on 2+ cpus and either slow-ish hw or under kvm to introduce latency (during vmexits)
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20:38 < mischief> it seems like this could only affect arm64 or riscv64 under virtualization
20:38 < mischief> anyone got an openbsd vm on a macbook to test? :)
20:41 < sibiria> arm macbook but unfortunately no hypervisor environment set up
20:46 < mischief> anyone gets a chance to repro, just install 7.9 with a custom partition layout, single 'a' partition for / and no swap
20:47 < mischief> if*
20:47 < mischief> the sign it's failing should be a bunch of `Killed` during normal /etc/rc boot
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20:49 < sibiria> hm, sounds like something i ran into on my tiny radxa arm sbc
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20:52 < sibiria> i can test on that machine if you'd like (a bit later, i'm stuck playing online games with my SO)
20:54 < mischief> in theory my shitty little librecomputer tritium supports kvm.. hmm. i'll have to reflash it
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21:09 < sibiria> yeah it's the same problem i have with my radxa - or at least the same manifestation
21:09 < sibiria> processes are randomly killed
21:12 < mischief> !
21:12 < mischief> excellent
21:12 < mischief> sibiria: on hw? or in a vm?
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21:54 < mischief> alright, veeery slowly installing openbsd/aarch64 in a kvm vm under linux on the librecomputer tritium
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21:55 < sibiria> mischief: on hw. radxa zero 3e
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22:01 < mischief> sibiria: that is a very tiny computer
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22:04 < sibiria> i'm sad it won't run openbsd well. hopefully you've sniffed out the cause
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22:13 < mischief> sibiria: i did, i have a patch if you want to build the kernel with it
22:13 < mischief> also, i did just now repro in my vm on aarch64 as well
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22:17 < sibiria> yeah please, i can have a look at it tomorrow
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22:32 < mischief> sibiria: https://p.offblast.org/tobafcjl - if your radxa is your only aarch64 it might be tough to build a new kernel, but this fixes it for me on riscv64. untested on my aarch64 vm.
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23:33 < Bradipo> No qcad in 7.9...
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23:35 < mischief> try solvespace
23:35  * Bradipo prefers qcad.
23:36 < mischief> did you try building it
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23:36 < Bradipo> I suppose I could build qcad from source...
23:36 < Bradipo> It's marked as broken in ports.
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23:39 < Bradipo> Actually, I have tried solvespace before... didn't like it much.
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23:50 < tvtoon> What are the goods over freecad nowadays?
23:51 < Bradipo> What keeps me going back to qcad is the interface and the interactions with the interface.
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23:53 < Bradipo> That, and I've been using it for years, so it's more "familiar".
23:55 < mischief> just looking at the photo on https://www.qcad.org/en/, i'd say the interface looks not that different from solvespace if you ignore the qt-ness of it
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