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00:02 < pardis> it's still there in -current https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/checkout/src/distrib/sets/lists/comp/md.amd64?rev=1.120
00:03 < mischief> WhyNotHugo: the version of gdb is ancient, not the binary
00:03 < mischief> there is lldb in base for llvm arches i think
00:03 < fro> yeah i'm on arm64
00:04 < fro> so that's why
00:04 < WhyNotHugo> Ah, the "version is 4 should be 2" means that the ancient gdb expects header version 2.
00:04 < WhyNotHugo> Why is it even in base if it can't debug binaries from base?
00:09 < mischief> great question
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00:33 < thrig> bitrot, lack of tuits, don't really need gdb for most problems, 
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00:53 < mischief> i made a patch for distributing single-queue nics over the relatively new mp softnet kernel threads. unfortunately it doesn't really help throughput on my odroid-h2 with 6 rge nics (though i didn't test concurrent bidir traffic on 2 sets of 2 nics, where it might), but i was thinking it might actually help on e.g. old multi-nic apus. i recall hearing someone say apu can't saturate the nics, is
00:53 < mischief> that still right?
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02:45 < martian67> yes
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05:24 < commandk> mischief: what throughput are you seeing vs expecting? thinking h2 with 6 nics might be limited by pcie busses as i think the platform has total of pcie2x6
05:25 < commandk> if you want testing of patch on multi-nic apu i think i can do that 
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05:36 < commandk> actually installing fresh apu4 not used for anything rn so clean slate and no concern of breakages
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08:59 < vortexx> mischief: correct, can't saturate the nics on an APU2/3/4/5/6 under OpenBSD
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10:42 < sibiria> mischief: yeah that's still the case (APU not saturating). i think zelest would appreciate trying your diff
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11:01 < zelest> mischief, Oh, that is indeed still the case.. I can peak around 500Mb/s up/down on my APU2 now, so I gladly test your patch. :) 
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12:01 < mischief> zelest: https://p.offblast.org/wkvsvvdk
12:02 < mischief> basically the softnet kernel thread assigned is just offset by if index
12:02 < mischief> previously all non-multiqueue interfaces would always land on softnet0
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12:23 < IcePic> mischief: given that some hw will put all IRQs on core0, it would have been better to have it biased against softnet0 if any
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17:28 < rIMpossible> Hey dudes :)
17:29 < rIMpossible> Anyone buying the 3 offered Qotom industrial pc's on reddit? g
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17:57  * oldlaptop does not often shop for computers on reddit
18:02 < rIMpossible> oldlaptop: me neither. I was just curious ...
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18:05 < rIMpossible> btw. I have a NFS mountpoint /nfs and want to mount an encrypted FFS2 volume on /nfs/ext. Why can't I access the external from the clients? Did I overread sth. ?
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18:07 < rIMpossible> I know, there are no links to files/dir's possible. Does this apply to mounte volumes within the nfs mountpoint as well?
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18:07 < rIMpossible> s/mounte/mounted
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18:09 < oldlaptop> ISTR it specifically checks that it doesn't cross filesystem boundaries
18:10 < oldlaptop> exports(5) seems to carefully talk about "filesystems", not "directories"
18:11 < oldlaptop> "directory path(s) within a server filesystem"
18:11 < oldlaptop> Any linux HOWTO or whatever (LLM output, these days?) will talk about "no_subtree_check", which specifically permits this sort of cross-filesystem exporting in their nfs server
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18:12 < oldlaptop> the option to permit it is AIUI linux-specific, but the default expectation is (AIUI) pretty common/normal for nfs servers
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18:13 < oldlaptop> look at BUGS too - "The export options are tied to the local mount points in the kernel..."
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18:14 < oldlaptop> and again the warning about -alldirs
18:15 < rIMpossible> oldlaptop: ok, thank you for clarification.
18:16 < rIMpossible> I am not using -alldirs due to security concerns.
18:17 < oldlaptop> more to the general point that it's tied to *filesystems*, not just stuff under some directory
18:21 < rIMpossible> oldlaptop: Is this dangerous: /home/export -mapall=nobody:_nfs -network ........ ?
18:22 < rIMpossible> /home/export is 770 nobody:_nfs
18:22 < rIMpossible> only group _nfs, no user _nfs
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18:26  * oldlaptop is not an nfs whisperer, just some goofball who's fought the nightmare filesystem once or twice before
18:26 < oldlaptop> "it's nfs, of course it's dangerous" is probably not a helpful answer, is it?
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18:27 < sibiria> abandon all hope ye who network-filesystems here
18:29 < morpho> hrmm im not sure about plan9 but i protect me nfs with either wireguard or authpf
18:29 < morpho> oops wrong chat
18:30 < morpho> well, there you go, authpf or wg
18:30 < oldlaptop> on the one hand, the number of people looking for bugs in plan9 probably rounds down to zero, so there are probably lots of bugs
18:30 < oldlaptop> on the other hand, probably the number of people who would know how to attack your 9p mounts rounds down to zero
18:30 < rIMpossible> morpho: it's wg'ed
18:31 < morpho> well then only let nfs be accesible from your VPN
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18:31 < cgnarne> oldlaptop: rounds more up to 20 at the moment, counting 9front
18:32 < rIMpossible> morpho: that's what I am doing, because I use it over WiFi, too
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18:32 < morpho> should be fine, are you exporting the ULA ip?
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18:38 < rIMpossible> morpho: I have no IPv6 in production systems, at this point.
18:38 < morpho> ipv4 ula then, like 10.x.x.x ones
18:39 < morpho> the ipv6 ula is less likely to collide with other subnets
18:40 < cgnarne> i'd be hesitant to call 10/8 a ula
18:41 < rIMpossible> yes, I am exporting it
18:42 < morpho> well then it should only be accessible by wg peers then, thats pretty secure if you trust the peers
18:44 < rIMpossible> the peers are trustable
18:44 < morpho> the thing id be worried about is having some smart device (fridge, printer, chromecast) on same subnet as nfs
18:44 < rIMpossible> that is a no-go
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18:45 < morpho> im not sure about all the other options
18:45 < morpho> i cant remember if i used a squashed root and so on
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18:45 < rIMpossible> my own IoT devices are in a separate network (Sensirion Air quality sensor(s) for example) and commercial devices I do not owe.
18:46 < rIMpossible> ... and if, once upon a day, they would get a severe network analysis beforehand and then taken in a very limited subnet
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18:48 < rIMpossible> I don't want my toaster to tell the cleaner robot to dump it's full containment on the babies sleeping blanket
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18:49 < rIMpossible> neither I owe a IoT toaster, nor a cleaner robot. Just a future vision ....
18:50 < morpho> this stuff is much easier on plan9
18:50 < morpho> speaking of
18:51 < rIMpossible> I am a loyal OpenBSD disciple
18:51 < morpho> same
18:52 < morpho> but openbsd model is like one central computer shared by many users and services
18:52 < kafkaenjoyer> thats unix in a nutshell
18:52 < rIMpossible> sometimes it's P.I.T.A. 
18:52 < morpho> IoT stuff flips that model. now its many computers accessed by a single user
18:54 < morpho> ive heard theres LDAP and stuff but ive not tried it
18:56 < rIMpossible> LDAP is kinda difficult ... IMHO
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19:00 < oldlaptop> Mmmmm, pita.
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19:01 < rIMpossible> indeed ;)
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21:11 < zelest> mischief, before your patch, I managed to reach around 500-600 Mb/s, with your patch, I reach 600-650 Mb/s
21:13 < mischief> that's something i guess :)
21:15 < zelest> yeah, a 100-150 Mbit/s win :D
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