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12:20 < broke> Hello, I asked this in the mailing list as well, but I thought might as well ask here. I am referring to my question from https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=178552209602396&w=2 and I want to ask if you have any idea how to fix this?
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13:01 < leahh> vortexx: Forgot to reply, install.octeon probably did, but this board's only storage medium is the main usb stick taking up the only usb port. So there's no other way to pull file sets other than the network
13:01 < leahh> i guess by a usb hub
13:02 < leahh> or over serial, but i doubt that'd be any faster
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13:43 < vortexx> serial will never be faster. Yeah maybe by usb hub but may as well just be patient and do network isntall
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14:01 < thrig> patience, how long will that take
14:03 < leahh> did that, its not like anything else will be fast on this board
14:03 < leahh> The network install took like 20 minutes iirc
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14:04 < leahh> without any X stuff since this thing doesn't have any video output
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14:07 < thrig> the X stuff is necessary to compile various things
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14:09 < leahh> well im not planning to use this thing for anything atm, my home network is fully functional as is
14:09 < leahh> was mostly an experiment :)
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14:25 < broke> Hello, sorry for the wrong link earlier, here's the actual link of my question:
14:25 < broke> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=178553222808634&w=2
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14:28 < vortexx> leahh: sysupgrade will still install those x sets, they only take 350Mb, it's not worth the bother to avoid them
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14:29 < vortexx> even on usb, at worst it's just taking up a bit of space in the dedicated /usr/X11R6 partition. Nothing runs, but if you need fontconfig for a web app running on the octeon you need the x sets
14:29 < broke> My iwn(4) issues are still really much annoying yet still, so I want to indulge upon on top of that. I tried to read the logs with ifconfig iwn0 debug, to see what is wrong and I was able to see when I didn't specify a bssid on a multi-channel AP which for some reason iwn would do background checks ocassionally for some reason I am not sure about. Here is the link for the bugs@ post as recommended by dg:
14:29 < broke> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=178535307683858&w=2
14:30 < broke> I'm sorry if the log wasn't really well cleaned up.
14:30 < sibiria> have you tried not running the ap as an ess?
14:31 < sibiria> i.e. run 2.4 and 5 ghz transceivers as two distinct access points
14:32 < sibiria> both having their own distinct ssid
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14:37 < broke_> sibiria: sorry I got disconnected again :( . The AP is running as an ESS, same SSID, two channels (2.4 and 5 GHz). As you may already have guessed, this is a generic router.
14:38 < sibiria> i'd just try turning one channel off to pull it out of ESS mode and see what happens
14:38 < sibiria> specifically i'd turn the 5 ghz one off
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14:40 < broke_> Okay I will surely try that. But I have a suspicion that It shouldn't make a difference because I have specified my interface to connect to the 2.4 GHz channel using that specific bssid. What do you think?
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14:41 < vortexx> I second turning off one channel but I normally leave 2.4GHz off as that's too saturate usually
14:41 < sibiria> just a guess but i think it's the ESS mode of operation that might be the cause
14:41 < sibiria> two identical SSIDs, iwn(4) possibly not being able to cope
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14:41 < sibiria> if not, it's still just a few minutes wasted on testing
14:42 < broke_> yeah that makes sense, I will update you after testing, thanks.
14:45 < sibiria> if the AP is enforcing 802.11w (management frame protection) that could also be a reason for incompatibility
14:45 < sibiria> i've even had older equipment unable to cope with 802.11w running in optional mode, only wanting to remain connected when it was fully disabled
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19:56 < il> I love openbsd manpages
19:56 < fro> ok
19:56 < il> lmao
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20:04 < quinq> Just marry them then
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20:28 < oldlaptop> openbsd linker warnings doing... well, definitely doing something: https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/130547 https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/131308
20:29  * oldlaptop remains absolutely astonished someone actually wants to have this "MS dotnet on openbsd" headache
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20:45 < sonya> oldlaptop: some/(a lot of) games require it as dependency.. some shifted from mono to .net.. unfortunately
20:45 < sonya> like openRA
20:55 < oldlaptop> I got the impression at https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/124911 it wasn't really openbsd porters driving it
20:55 < oldlaptop> but I could be missing names
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