--- Log opened Mon Aug 17 00:00:25 2026 00:02 -!- tozhu [~Thunderbi@2a09:bac1:6520:8::2e5:15] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08 -!- hwpplayer1 [~hwpplayer@user/hwpplayer1] has joined #openbsd 00:09 -!- akinji [~akinji@user/akinji] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:14 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:17 -!- cross [~cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:17 -!- cross [~cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net] has joined #openbsd 00:23 -!- Chip1972 [~Chip1972@201.17.211.116] has joined #openbsd 00:25 < Chip1972> what editor have auto complete? 00:26 -!- megawatt [~megawatt@user/megawatt] has left #openbsd [] 00:27 < oldlaptop> kate, presumably vim and emacs with the appropriate plugins, I'd assume geany? should all have autoirritate 00:27 < oldlaptop> (kdevelop is kate with even more stuff (TM)) 00:27 < TommyC> It's 2026, it's shorter to list which editors don't have autocomplete and off the top of my head, probably pico and nano. 00:27 < oldlaptop> I assume that is a very, very incomplete list. 00:28 < oldlaptop> vi, mg, and ed all lack autocomplete. :) 00:28 < TommyC> Right. We'll add them too. 00:29 < oldlaptop> http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/checkout/src/bin/ed/USD.doc/09.edtut/e0,v?rev=1.3 >:) 00:29 < oldlaptop> ("Almost all text input on the UNIX operating system is done with the text-editor ed.") 00:31 < Chip1972> kate do not run makefile. vim and emacs are for ETs, and I am tired of geany dont autocomplete 00:32 < oldlaptop> kate does in fact have a plugin to fire off builds, if that is what you mean by "do not run makefile" 00:32 < oldlaptop> (obviously, more extensive build-system crud is among the even more stuff in kdevelop) 00:34 < oldlaptop> kate is also a KDE thing, so there are at least two different plugins that embed a konsole (with which one could "run makefile") 00:40 -!- Quantafac [~Thunderbi@12.22.122.66] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:40 -!- Quantafac [~Thunderbi@12.22.122.66] has joined #openbsd 00:41 -!- elagost [~elagost@user/elagost] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:42 -!- elagost [~elagost@user/elagost] has joined #openbsd 00:49 -!- fflam [~mdt@pool-72-82-53-136.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 00:49 -!- tozhu [~Thunderbi@2a09:bac1:6520:8::19a:270] has joined #openbsd 00:52 -!- tozhu [~Thunderbi@2a09:bac1:6520:8::19a:270] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53 -!- tozhu [~Thunderbi@2a09:bac1:6520:8::19a:195] has joined #openbsd 00:57 < Chip1972> oldlaptop: worked 01:11 -!- hwpplayer1 [~hwpplayer@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:12 -!- aqsd [~aqsd@user/aqsd] has quit [Server closed connection] 01:13 -!- aqsd [~aqsd@user/aqsd] has joined #openbsd 01:16 -!- DarkTaffy [~oldben@user/Old-Ben-Jabroni] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:16 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has joined #openbsd 01:17 -!- remilia_ [~remilia@124.110.12.171.ap.gmobb-fix.jp] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.10.1 - https://znc.in] 01:17 -!- remilia [~remilia@124.110.12.171.ap.gmobb-fix.jp] has joined #openbsd 01:17 -!- DarkTaffy [~oldben@user/Old-Ben-Jabroni] has joined #openbsd 01:19 -!- mete- [~beelink@186.250.11.107] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in] 01:19 -!- remilias1 [~remiliasc@user/remiliascarlet] has joined #openbsd 01:19 -!- mete- [~beelink@186.250.11.107] has joined #openbsd 01:20 -!- remiliascarlet [~remiliasc@user/remiliascarlet] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21 -!- puffybuf [~puffy@user/puffybuf] has quit [Quit: ] 01:21 < Chip1972> Kate error: Cannot save build targets in: /.kateproject.build 01:21 < Chip1972> how too fix? 01:26 -!- Ozymandias42_ [~Ozymandia@user/Ozymandias42] has joined #openbsd 01:27 -!- Ozymandias42 [~Ozymandia@user/Ozymandias42] has quit [Ping timeout: 243 seconds] 01:27 -!- Ozymandias42_ is now known as Ozymandias42 01:32 -!- sandmanXpuff [~sandmanXp@user/sandmanXpuff] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:32 -!- palooka [objectivis@objectivist.rpblc.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:32 -!- palooka [objectivis@user/palooka] has joined #openbsd 01:33 -!- palooka is now known as djPoorly 01:34 -!- bunkmate [~bunkmate@user/bunkmate] has quit [Quit: bunkmate] 01:34 -!- djPoorly is now known as objectivist 01:35 -!- objectivist [objectivis@user/palooka] has quit [Changing host] 01:35 -!- objectivist [objectivis@user/objectivist] has joined #openbsd 01:47 -!- m0v [~m0v@user/m0v] has quit [Ping timeout: 247 seconds] 01:53 -!- balsamic-oval [~balsamic-@user/balsamic-oval] has quit [Ping timeout: 261 seconds] 01:57 -!- vdamewood [~vdamewood@fedora/vdamewood] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Anywhere.] 02:31 -!- zippy [~quassel@188.27.35.45] has joined #openbsd 02:31 -!- zippy [~quassel@188.27.35.45] has quit [Client Quit] 02:31 -!- zippy [~quassel@188.27.35.45] has joined #openbsd 02:31 -!- hwpplayer1 [~hwpplayer@user/hwpplayer1] has joined #openbsd 02:33 -!- fflam [~mdt@pool-72-82-53-136.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openbsd 02:37 -!- jasmor [~jasmor@user/jasmor] has joined #openbsd 02:38 < jasmor> Hey everyone 02:38 < bunkmate> hi jasmor 02:39 < jasmor> Decided to repurpose this X1 Carbon nano (gen 2) with OpenBSD. Working great 02:39 -!- hwpplayer1 [~hwpplayer@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:39 < bunkmate> nice, I have one as well, a great OpenBSD laptop 02:39 < jasmor> Indeed. 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Sometimes sdmmc0 can't be enable, other times there's a new sd3 device. I have unplug and replug the card several times until it works... 10:16 < seninha> I thought that's a issue of my notebook's sd card reader. 10:16 < vortexx> sibiria: lucky you, I only have a Blizzard 68030EC in there sans FPU and even with it'd be dead slow. I've tried OpenBSD on WinUAE in an A3000 maxed out config, it was pretty slow on that too 10:17 < _Posterdati_> the problem is that sd card contains the OS 10:19 < sibiria> vortexx: it was sort of dead-slow for me as well, running on 50 mhz 030. but it did work as expected 10:20 < sibiria> generating ssh keys on first-boot took a few minutes 10:25 -!- fallback [fallback@2605:6400:20:b4:2df7:c15d:5c14:7a83] has joined #openbsd 10:26 -!- Skullheadx [~Skullhead@user/Skullheadx] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:26 -!- zwieratko [~zwieratko@user/zwieratko] has joined #openbsd 10:26 -!- Skullheadx [~Skullhead@user/Skullheadx] has joined #openbsd 10:26 -!- td123 [~tom@user/td123] has joined #openbsd 10:29 -!- palooka [objectivis@objectivist.rpblc.net] has joined #openbsd 10:30 -!- hotsoup_ [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1+deb2+b3 - https://znc.in] 10:30 -!- iphoneprotein [~iphonepro@user/iphoneprotein] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34 -!- hotsoup [~hotsoup@user/hotsoup] has joined #openbsd 10:35 -!- GeorgeCZ [~textual@78-80-96-155.customers.tmcz.cz] has joined #openbsd 10:36 -!- Minall [~user@user/Minall] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:39 -!- iphoneprotein [~iphonepro@user/iphoneprotein] has joined #openbsd 10:42 -!- dzxr [~qrxk@user/dizzychatter] has joined #openbsd 10:42 -!- qrxk [~qrxk@user/dizzychatter] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:49 -!- boplaid [~boplaid@user/boplaid] has joined #openbsd 10:51 -!- zwieratko [~zwieratko@user/zwieratko] has quit [Quit: bIRC — https://birc.app] 10:52 -!- schalken [~schalken@117-118-178-69.gci.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:53 -!- remilias1 is now known as remiliascarlet 10:53 -!- schalken [~schalken@117-118-178-69.gci.net] has joined #openbsd 11:11 -!- schalken [~schalken@117-118-178-69.gci.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:13 -!- rcdecv [~rcdecv@user/rcdecv] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13 -!- rcdecv [~rcdecv@user/rcdecv] has joined #openbsd 11:17 -!- fallback [fallback@2605:6400:20:b4:2df7:c15d:5c14:7a83] has quit [Quit: IRCNow and Forever!] 11:27 -!- fallback [fallback@2605:6400:20:b4:d215:d916:1183:4c75] has joined #openbsd 11:37 -!- afresh1 [~afresh1@us.holligan.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:37 -!- afresh1 [~afresh1@us.holligan.net] has joined #openbsd 11:39 < _Posterdati_> sibiria: no way, I had to install netbsd 11.0 11:39 < _Posterdati_> sibiria: :( 11:41 -!- zwieratko [~zwieratko@user/zwieratko] has joined #openbsd 11:50 -!- qrxk [~qrxk@user/dizzychatter] has joined #openbsd 11:53 -!- zwieratko [~zwieratko@user/zwieratko] has quit [Quit: bIRC — https://birc.app] 11:53 -!- waffles_ is now known as waffles 11:54 -!- dzxr [~qrxk@user/dizzychatter] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:54 -!- GeorgeCZ [~textual@78-80-96-155.customers.tmcz.cz] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Being outclassed by PCs pretty quickly, for the money. But it had a huge library at least and magazines were giving away software on coverdisks which helped a lot 16:42 < rIMpossible> vortexx: yes, the A600 and A1200 had other specifications, but ECS and it's successor brought incompatibilities, too 16:47 < rIMpossible> the AMIGA was at the time of the first release in 1985/86 one of the most demanded computer systems with lots of peripheral hardware option on the market. But Intel and Microsoft pumped just more money into the development of cheaper hardware and subsidized O/S. Bad management decisions on the side of Commodore made the fall of Commodore even faster. 16:47 < rIMpossible> But AMIGA had a fan base, which is still alive today 16:47 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:50 < vortexx> Oh I know, I've been with it for close to 4 decases 16:50 < vortexx> s/decases/decades 16:51 < vortexx> they're even coming out with new accelerators and using AI to try and code ways of making Commodore Amiga UNIX work on thr 68040/060 16:51 < vortexx> s/thr/the 16:51 < rIMpossible> vortexx: Commodore Amiga UNIX ? 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