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04:12 < enrh> Any of you maniacs running OpenBSD on your Raspberry Pi?
04:12 < enrh> :)
04:17 < rafael> i tried a few years ago, but back then it wasn't as simple to install, can't recall if I got it to work 
04:18 < rafael> and by easy, i mean, wasn't motivated enough i guess :)
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04:20 < djPoorly> I'd like to try, I honestly want to setup a homelab for doing my certs and a networking portfolio and whatever make work project that might be worth mentioning would be cool.  Router, VPN
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05:07 < vortexx> djPoorly: don't waste your time with a poorly supported one port ancient device then. Go for a well supported 3 port+ ancient device like a PC Engines APU (preferably APU6 cos that replaces the serial port with a microUSB serial port). Or do yourself a favour and get a less than 5 year old computer secondhand that has at least two network ports and has enough oomph for a bit of virtualization
05:07 < vortexx> otherwise you're messing with VLANs right from the outset, having to use a special adapter for serial access etc
05:08 < vortexx> it's even better if you get a board with IPMI access
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05:08 < vortexx> like a supermicro server board
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07:38 < lil_lasagna> for those of you compiling/porting/packaging things for openbsd: when getting the sources for a project, out of meson/cmake/autotools, which one would you rather see as the project's build system?
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08:33 < dg> why not just pure make? autotools is mostly overengineered when we have POSIX
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09:08 < quinq> dg, correct
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10:04 < lil_lasagna> well, I use some openbsd functions like strtonum that might not be on other posix systems
10:04 < lil_lasagna> creating your own config script that checks for these functions seems tedious and error prone
10:05 < lil_lasagna> and as a user, I dislike whenever a project gives me a config.mk file with a bunch of options and tells me to fill them myself (that's what I would expect a configure script to do)
10:06 < lil_lasagna> oconfigure by kristaps looks quite interesting
10:07 < lil_lasagna> as for the autotools, I find that even for simple projects, the resulting configure.ac and Makefile.am have way less lines and are way more readable than the resulting Makefile with everything prefixed with ${DESTDIR} ${PREFIX} ${CC} everywhere
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10:08 < lil_lasagna> plus they support out of tree builds by handling vpath correctly across make implementations and so on
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10:08 < lil_lasagna> but they are still quite ugly and bloated, so I don't really like them
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10:11 < IcePic> lil_lasagna: some projects make a libbsd or something to hold functions you want to use but isn't there on other (less good) OSes, and then add it as an optional place to resolve those symbols during linking
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10:13 < sibiria> #ifdef __OpenBSD__    strtonum()    #endif
10:15 < lil_lasagna> IcePic: I usually prefer project that include a compat dir with the sources copied over from openbsd
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21:51 < dg>  reset
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21:53 < tux0r> try again
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22:24 < echelon> so is there a way to impose dns validation only for specific forward zones im unbound?
22:24 < echelon> in*
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22:30 < quinq> echelon_, there is domain-insecure
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22:32 < echelon_> thanks!
22:33 < quinq> Not sure that's exactly what you need, but it's worth a look
22:33 < echelon_> and it will cover the entire zone?
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23:14 < echelon> quinq: that did the trick, thank you
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