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01:29 < chara> seems moving windows files to another directory and replacing it with openbsd ones did the trick.
01:29 < chara> good.
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02:38 < chara> sent my first patch. hopefully it gets merged. :D
02:38 < fro> cool
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03:37 < mischief> new p14s gen7 just arrived, time to find out if openbsd works
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08:47 < mischief> mostly working besides wifi https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/dmesgd?do=view&id=9107
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08:49 < Adio> Hoping to join a healthy and friendly openbsd community forum/group for extending my knowledge. 
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08:50 < Adio> Any pointers on forums or should I just rest my neck here?
08:56 < mischief> Adio: try https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
08:56 < mischief> particularly misc@
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08:56 < avemestr> Or https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&r=1&w=2 and https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&r=1&w=2 if you don't want to subscribe right away.
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09:01 < Adio> Thx, still gonna rest my neck here tho lol.
09:01 < Adio> Looking them up now.
09:01 < Adio> Already browsing openbsd.org now.
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09:16 < Adio> Thanks for the links mischief & avemestr.
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09:17 < Adio> Better studying the cache before I make the jump to fully register and look like a dummy :P
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13:18 < klsrqm> Anyone have any pointers as to why my .xmodmap only works sporadically? I am calling it from my i3 config. Tried from .xsession as well but that didn't seem to work. Weird thing is it doesn't work on login to i3; but it works when I relaunch it!?
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13:39 < klsrqm> figured it out: i was using setxkbmap as well as xmodmap in i3 config; and while they were after each other, I guess they might still have interfered via race conditions or whatever. anyway, only using xmodmap seems to be consistently working now
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15:15 < Minall> Hello OpenBSD Community!
15:16 < Minall> My OpenBSD laptop which I had a server suddently crashed. When I tried to use it, it was unresponsive. I could move the mouse, yet when I tried to press any button in X to close anything it crashed. I then got an panic: init died (signal 0, exit 10). 
15:16 < Minall> I rebooted, ran fsck_ffs into the drive that was wrong, and Y's to all as I though I just got some corrupt data.
15:17 < Minall> Now, when I restart, I get softraid0: sd1: i/o 5 @ CRYPTO block xxxxxxxxx, and what started as a BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG gave me even more issues
15:18 < Minall> THings like ahci: stopped the port, softreset slot 31 was still active
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15:18 < Minall> So, at this point I wonder if the system is recuperable, or should I re-install. The data itself is not that important as I have backups...
15:19 < Minall> In this case what I want to do is to learn more about how OpenBSD handled this and why this may happen. I leaved the server laptop on for several months since it was a server...
15:19 < oldlaptop> I would wonder if something's gone wrong with the hardware.
15:20 < Minall> oldlaptop: The only thing that happened before this, was that at some point my server stopped responding, and when I checked, everything in the system was working, but the network connection... Suddently the network adapter just stopped working...
15:20 < Minall> I rebooted and it began to work, slightly slower but eventually it worked
15:20 < Minall> I'm trying to get the info of the specific driver in use, still, it is an intel that needs firmware
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15:21 < Minall> So perhaps something inside that driver made the system unresponsible and began killing my system?. How could I check whether it may be that, and thus give a bug report, or if the SSD is dead...?
15:21 < Minall> So the first restart after the first fsck will l
15:22 < Minall> So the first restart after the first fsck gave me a boot but everything was slow, it didn't even went to X as it then asked for another fsck. While the normal boot may take around 10 seconds, this one took around 40
15:23  * oldlaptop would suggest standard hardware diagnostics - check the disk (SMART may or may not tell on itself), run a memory test, maybe consider the power supply/power delivery system
15:23 < flaxarn> Test ssd SMART in another computer
15:24 < oldlaptop> power problems would maybe be a little more of a zebra-hoofbeats situation for a laptop than a desktop
15:24 < oldlaptop> but especially if the battery's stone dead (or absent), swapping out the power brick if possible would be a reasonable idea
15:26 < oldlaptop> some laptop vendors may have a bootable "diagnostics" thing you can obtain that'll do memory tests, check SMART, maybe test some other things
15:26 < Minall> The battery is alright actually, though the last time the server dies was because of power yes. As in I disconnected accidentally, and it died after battery went for some times
15:26 < Minall> I do have this bootable diagnostics. I'll run it right now
15:26 < oldlaptop> a power-related theory would be supported by any apparent correlation with system load
15:26 < Minall> And actually, it tgried to test the hard drive nad, it told me that it is not installed...
15:27 < Minall> So I could be more sure that this SSD just died surely
15:27 < flaxarn> If the laptop storage controller is broken, You cant rely on it to do correct SMART testing
15:27 < flaxarn> Another comp better to give answer about the ssd
15:27 < Minall> oldlaptop: System load was extremely low, I just have a git server here and I wasn't using it at the moment, so the only load would be fvwm, and chromium with some video paused idk
15:27 < oldlaptop> flaxarn: (I would think of that as another zebra-hoofbeats theory, honestly.)
15:28 < Minall> Welp
15:29 < Minall> I will test this SSD in the mean time, I'll be free in around 1 hours and an half so I may continue on thjis
15:29 < thrig> check voltages if you can in the bios
15:29 < oldlaptop> Another reason to mess around with disconnecting the SSD: entirely possible reseating that (or another - RAM modules are another good one) connector magically solves the problem
15:31 < Minall> I'll test this. Because it is weird that I can book into OpenBSD yet the smart checker doesn't see it. Maybe because it is encrypted?
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15:31 < oldlaptop> Something that's just doing SMART shouldn't care about that.
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15:39 < mischief> Minall: your init dying is a SIGBUS signal
15:39 < mischief> not a good thing to see from init
15:39 < mischief> cosmic rays perhaps :-)
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15:55 < klsrqm> cosmic rays would explain the inexplicable death of my macbook pro while on hols...
15:56 < klsrqm> left it powered off and unplugged for 2 weeks, now it doesn't work. 🤷
15:56 < klsrqm> logic board death
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16:01 < sibiria> for that to happen the EMR event would have to be so significant it would've made international news, i think
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16:01 < klsrqm> i know :) 
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16:02 < oldlaptop> Hey, maybe the only detector that particular OMG particle hit was your macbook
16:02 < klsrqm> and Minall's laptop
16:03 < klsrqm> in some quantum state where the OMG particle bilocated 
16:03 < klsrqm> you never know with these things
16:04 < sibiria> some place indeed has host the first event
16:05 < sibiria> has to*
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16:09 < mischief> maybe the front fell off
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16:40 < mischief> didn't someone complain here recently about thinkpad fans never idling
16:42 < mischief> https://p.offblast.org/hjlvdqed
16:42 < mischief> no more jet on my lap
16:43 < sibiria> probably. it happens by default when running on AC, since the default performance policy is "high" on AC instead of auto
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16:46 < mischief> sibiria: my new thinkpad is on ac, 42 c and 0 rpm fan right now with this patch
16:47 < sibiria> but is hw.setperf 0 or 100?
16:48 < sibiria> if it doesn't wind down when setperf is 0, then the patch absolutely sounds like something they should reel in
16:49 < mischief> sibiria: yes, 100
16:49 < sibiria> it doesn't sound like it, but maybe it is that power efficient and runs at a mere 42°C at full speed without idling
16:51 < mischief> it's not doing anything atm though, just snap from today and default x session. the cpu frequency scaling appears to be working, half the cores at 2ghz and the other half at 1.4ghz
16:51 < sibiria> the idea behind "high" is to lock the CPU at top frequency and basically omit power saving protocols
16:53 < mischief> fan, temp and 1 of the cores all light up when i run `openssl speed dsa`, so it does all seem to be working (with this patch)
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16:54 < sibiria> sounds right, but it also sounds like it's in "auto" and not "high". but maybe your hw.perfpolicy is set to "auto" on AC
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16:55 < mischief> it appears to auto-toggle high on ac, and auto when unplugged
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16:56 < sibiria> "high,auto" - high on AC, auto on battery - is the default
16:57 < mischief> right.. so the fan was stuck at 2700rpm, on or off ac, even with no load and the cpu core clocks all the way down
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21:47 < Minall> Hello OpenBSD Community!
21:47 < Minall> Confirmed, mischief, sibiria and oldlaptop Thanks for your help... The SSD is dead, I guess it dies via the power outage
21:48 < Minall> It was an old SSD, I though it had to do that okay, it was more complex to fix since it was full encrypted and whatever but, I doubt that since fsck tends to solve most issues as I am also reading 
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21:48 < Minall> So, I'll buy a new SSD and have my server again ready. Happily I had several backups so I don't lose any data.
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