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03:38 < Chip1972> there is a sql gui interface for postgresql?
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04:39 < byteskeptical> Chip1972: I know there is phpPgAdmin and pgweb
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05:15 < housemate> hello. how can I connect to the wireless network?
05:15 < housemate> which is the software in order to do this?
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05:15 < housemate> I am on a freshly installed system and am greeted with the prompt.
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05:17 < dg> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Wireless
05:20 < housemate> thank you.
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08:42 < Minall> Hello OpenBSD Community!
08:42 < Minall> Given that my laptop Drive died after the power outage, is there something I can so to, for example, check if it may die in my OpenBSD system?
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08:44 < sibiria> i don't think any OS would be involved in it at all, even an OS that has no support for TRIM and puts the drive in eventual "stress"
08:47 < mischief> Minall: did you check the SMART data on it?
08:47 < sibiria> right, to just check up on its health using SMART is a good first step
08:47 < sibiria> you have atactl in base system
08:47 < mischief> or, did you check if it works at all on a different host?
08:48 < sibiria> it's not as evolved as e.g. smartctl commonly found on the linuces, but it can give you basic short/long self test status
08:48 < Minall> mischief: The drive is dead dead actually, It will not even get recognize, so today a new one will arrive
08:48 < sibiria> maybe smartmon-tools are in ports, and maybe it's a good port
08:48 < sibiria> would be an improvement over base atactl
08:49 < Minall> Na I want to maintain it simple... If the flow is not an OS but me checking via smart weekly the status it is alright. Just wanted to know the best practice
08:50 < sibiria> well, atactl or preferrably smartctl (smartmon-tools) will provide the basic SMART output
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08:50 < sibiria> short self-test is usually enough to find immediate problems
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08:56 < Minall> Thanks :D
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10:34 < mischief> Minall: it can be put in cron, cron can mail you about it. that's what my (linux) fileserver does with my big disks in raid. it triggered earlier this year and i had to go replace the disks before their imminent failure :-)
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13:59 < sibiria> anyone here running firefox on intel integrated graphics who could test if firefox in their case is also capped at 40 fps maximum by heading to: https://webglsamples.org/aquarium/aquarium.html
13:59 < sibiria> needs webgl and acceleration enabled
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14:02 < mischief> all team red here, sorry
14:03 < sibiria> affects AMD GPU as well. it's all i have at home. was curious if intel users were spared of this stupid mistake
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14:03 < uwharrie> I can get 35 with a single shark :|
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14:03 < sibiria> doesn't sound too bad for software rendering :p
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14:04 < sibiria> better than no shark
14:04 < mischief> ill check on my new beefy p14s
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14:05 < phy1729> I get capped at 40 (occasionally 42/43) with 100 fish on a decadeish old machine
14:06 < sibiria> i guess intel or amd doesn't matter. problem is likely a build/config with openbsd's firefox port
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14:06 < sibiria> chromium isn't affected
14:06 < mischief> hm, i recall there may be a magic env var for this
14:07 < sibiria> about:support kinda confirms everything *should* have a 60 fps target
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14:09 < sibiria> i noticed the issue some 2 years ago. still haven't reported it. i'm terrible. but one of these days...
14:11 < mischief> wasn't there a lack of Xshm as well due to firefox being pledged, and pledge having nothing to cover shm syscalls?
14:11 < sibiria> and it's not just webgl, but all of firefox' screen updates. you can't enjoy 60 fps video on youtube either
14:12 < sibiria> or doom-scroll really smoothly
14:12 < sibiria> it's a disaster
14:12 < mischief> sibiria: yes, i am noticing firefox-esr feels very laggy even on this new p14s gen7
14:13 < gipa> sibiria: max 40 here (intel/firefox-esr)
14:13 < mischief> with 8gb stolen out of my 32gb it *should* be able to handle about anything with ease
14:13 < sibiria> right. though not a VRAM issue, but it's good to have some headroom
14:14 < sibiria> i haven't bothered looking through the patches to see if something there is explicitly setting the limit
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14:18 < uwharrie> farther along than I've ever gotten. once glxinfo and vainfo confirmed something different was happening I put it to the side and haven't played with it since
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